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Topic: QV Rendering

Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 10-02-2006 09:54 AM

Found this rendering on the NYCruiseInfo site, thought I would pass it allong. Ship is obviously a Vista class, but still looks pretty nice I think...

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 10-02-2006 10:21 AM

Oosterdam:

Bleow: Arcadia:

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Carlos Fernandez
First Class Passenger
Member # 6432

posted 10-02-2006 10:27 AM

The ships exterior was designed like P&O's Arcadia, which was going to be QV, but something happened and the ships was started to be built again, this rendering has a QM2 funnel. The ship will most likely look exactly like Arcadia with Cunard colors.

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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 10-02-2006 10:41 AM

Well there are a few more changes from the Arcadia to the QV. The QV will more likely be a twin to the newest HAL ships ordered, the Signature Class. These ships are a little longer than the Vista's and the QV does not have the exterior elevators that the Vista Sisters and Arcadia all have. It looks to me like the upper deck addition in front of the funnel is a different shape on the QV than on the Arcadia. All in all I am somewhat interested to see what this new ship will actually finally look like...

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 10-02-2006 10:51 AM

Only a few changes. Look at the deck plans of QV and either the HALs or Arcadia and they're still very similar. Now we have a proper artist's impression it confirms what I said all along. Clone.

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 10-02-2006 11:06 AM

HAHAHAHA this is the new ocean liner fore Cunard. I think someone at Carnival co. must be comedian. Simply vista with an Cunard touch.

Agree with Thad this is i'm affraid what the new HAL vessels will look like, maybe with the outside elevators in place. Just more frome the same number 7 and 8.

Greetings Ben.

ps. Still both QV and Oosterdam look splendith in that angel.

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 10-02-2006 11:14 AM

LOL! I don't like it. With the Cunard funnel it looks more ridiculous than the HALs. Still can't wait for the 2008 itineries to see if they have Vicky and Arcadia in together. Each company used to leave their own mark with their designs. With Carnival using the same ones across the board it gets stupid. You'd have thought, with the change of mind last time handing it over to P&O, they would have come up with something different, maybe based on QM2 but smaller with something to distinguish them. For all that they just might as repaint the funnel, change the name and stick one of the Dams under the Cunard banner.

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cruiseshipluver
First Class Passenger
Member # 5104

posted 10-02-2006 11:34 AM

I do not like it either, it is a clear clone of the vista class...i hardly see any modifications....I would hope that Cunard is trying to keep us guessing and not having this as the final design?
cruiseshipluver

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 10-02-2006 11:38 AM

No external lift is the main one. It looks like where they currently have Arcadia in lights (no idea about the HALs because I haven't seen them close enough) has been removed and the name's nearer the funnel. Apart from that, er....

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Carlos Fernandez
First Class Passenger
Member # 6432

posted 10-02-2006 11:46 AM

The older renderings looked just like Arcadia with exterior elevators and evertything else. It's true, Cunard should have done something a bit different, more like a smaller clone of QM2.

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 10-02-2006 11:54 AM

Well not a clone exactly but started from her basic design and made a few changes. The last Queens were sisters but different. That's what these should be. Clones seem to be what all of them do these days sadly but they should at least keep them to one brand. This is across 3 brands. How long before they all end up with one design?

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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 10-02-2006 12:09 PM

I think we have to take the fact that this is a photoshop as a sign that the ship might look a little different than this. One aspect that will most likely not look like this rendering is the mast. I would think that that the QV will get the QE2 mast that both the QM and Arcadia ended up with. I do think it is interesting that the hull paint does not go as far up the hull in this rendering as it does on the HAL sisters...

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 10-02-2006 12:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Thad:
I think we have to take the fact that this is a photoshop [..]

Exactly - just the QM2 funnel added to a HAL Vista class - a discussion on design details based on this picuture is therefore sensless.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 10-02-2006 12:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:
HAHAHAHA this is the new ocean liner fore Cunard. I think someone at Carnival co. must be comedian.

Or a genius!

A relatively chaep addition to the Cunard fleet and I bet the customers lap it up, especially when the QE2's gone.

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Pascal
First Class Passenger
Member # 5510

posted 10-02-2006 12:20 PM

Oh my goodness, they took the Oosterdam picture Malcolm posted and photoshoped it !!!! Look at the bow waves, they are exactly identical !

And yes, Cunard livery suits very well to the Vista class.

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mec1
First Class Passenger
Member # 4287

posted 10-02-2006 12:32 PM

When will they simply rename the P&O fleet and paint them as Cunarders?

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 10-02-2006 12:36 PM

Christmas? Queen Oriana? They already have Queen Arcadia.

Going on it then, Malcolm?

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 10-02-2006 02:08 PM

It would be wonderful if Cunard installed a tall funnel (like QE2's) and mast as opposed to a stubby one line on QM2. A Vista/Spirit Class ship ship can easily handle a tall majestic stack.

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Carlos Fernandez
First Class Passenger
Member # 6432

posted 10-02-2006 02:18 PM

Cruise ships should not look the same, I know that's what's cheap but hey, be a bit unique. But many passengers except for poeple who really know don't really care and they are the majority.

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 10-02-2006 02:59 PM

Hear, hear, Carlos. Nice to know someone else feels the same way.

Apparently Royal Caribbean won't be making changes to Pullmantur so it makes me wish they'd got P&O instead. They don't put their Celebrity designs in their own fleet and vice versa so they still have some individuality among the brands. The way Carnival are going all basic hull designs will be one. They've already put theirs on the new Costas. HALs on P&O and Cunard. Grand Class Princess now with P&O. Originality has disappeared. The last one was probably QM2. I was speaking to a woman last weeked who loved Oriana and Aurora but was very disappointed with Arcadia. They can make the interiors as posh as they like with Vicky but it won't change the fact her design is already in service.

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Onno
First Class Passenger
Member # 3071

posted 10-02-2006 03:29 PM

As with most of Cunard’s PR material, this is no exception, the rendition is don very poorly. The QV presentation of a while back clearly showed a raised lookout/observation deck on her for deck. The person who did this sloppy allteration simply forgot to ad it or it was too dificult for him/her to do so.

Notice that the Funnel is a cut and past from QM2 (the perspective of the funnel does not match up with the ship)

Notice that the mast is in typical HAL white black white rings! Again the “artist” forgot that fact!

Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy!

Don’t take this rendition as a true and honest representation of QV.

Onno

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joe at travelpage
Administrator
Member # 622

posted 10-02-2006 03:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:

Exactly - just the QM2 funnel added to a HAL Vista class - a discussion on design details based on this picuture is therefore sensless.

Now come on, that has never stopped people in the past...

Those of you wishing to comment on something more substantial than a photoshopped image might find the interior renderings on the Cunard site interesting. They can be found here.

Atrium

Queens Room

Then again, some are sure to complain that this is no different than any other Carnival or HAL vista...

Joe at TravelPage.com

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 10-02-2006 03:52 PM

Oh look the man with the extra hand and woman with an arm. The brochure puts that couple from the Caronia restaurant pic for QE2 in a different place but still with the woman's arm and man's hand added. They love their photoshop these designers.

The interiors are indeed nice, Joe. It's the exterior that's the problem. That and very simialr deckplans.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 10-02-2006 04:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Pascal:
Oh my goodness, they took the Oosterdam picture Malcolm posted and photoshoped it!

I did NOT photoshop anything. That is HAL's reendition of ther Oosterdam, which has obviously been used for Queen Vic.

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 10-02-2006 05:38 PM

I can vouch for that. I searched Google Images and it came up on there. They did the same for Crown Princess/Ventura. Same pic, just different livery.

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