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bulbousbow
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posted 04-20-2006 09:49 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Mini-cruises ready to sail from port
BY SCOTT BLAKE
April 20, 2006

PORT CANAVERAL -- A fledgling Orlando-based cruise company announced plans Wednesday to start "mini-cruises" from Port Canaveral in late November.

Paradise Caribbean Cruise Lines plans to operate a refurbished 38-year-old, midsized ship renamed the Orient Queen on two-night trips to the Bahamas and one-night "cruises to nowhere."

Deborah Warner, a spokeswoman for the cruise line, said the company will release details about its cruise prices when it begins marketing its voyages in June. She said details about the cruise line's ownership group still were being worked out.

Paradise Caribbean will try to compete at Port Canaveral alongside major cruise lines -- Carnival, Disney and Royal Caribbean -- where other small cruise companies have failed.

Jeff Hentz, a marketing consultant for Paradise Caribbean who presented a slide show of the plan to Port Canaveral commissioners Wednesday, was an executive at several small cruise lines at Port Canaveral that have gone out of business in recent years.

Hentz was president and chief executive officer of Ocean Club Cruises, which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in late-2003, several months after starting operations.

Hentz also served in executive positions with Cape Canaveral Cruise Line and Premier Cruise Lines, which also are defunct.

Hentz said the Orient Queen has undergone $10 million in renovations.

The 525-foot-long ship currently has a maximum capacity of 922 passengers, but the capacity could be increased for the Port Canaveral voyages, company officials said.

In comparison, the Port Canaveral-based Disney Magic and Disney Wonder each are 964 feet long and have a maximum capacity of 2,400 passengers.

Debut in 1968

The Orient Queen previously was named Starward.

It debuted in 1968, sailing out of Miami as one of the original vessels for the Norwegian Caribbean Line.

Recently, the ship has been operated by Abou Mehri Cruises, a cruise line in the Middle East, according to Cruise Travel magazine.

That cruise line's Web site indicates the ship this summer will operate Mediterranean cruises from Beirut, Lebanon, to Turkey and Greece.

Hentz said the ship has 392 cabins, three restaurants, two swimming pools, a casino, fitness center, spa, and a number of lounges and bars.

Also representing Paradise Caribbean at Wednesday's meeting were Capt. Munir Kahn, who was introduced as the cruise line's president; and Capt. Emilio Tsokoeoulous, who was introduced as the line's managing director.

Arrival in November

Company officials expect the ship to arrive at Port Canaveral between Nov. 15 and Nov. 21, with cruises starting about a week later.

Hentz said the itinerary calls for two-night cruises stopping at Grand Bahama Island that would depart Port Canaveral each Monday, Wednesday and Saturday; and one-night cruises to nowhere each Friday.

He said the company will focus its marketing on Orlando's large time-share condominium/resort industry, seeking many of its customers as part of vacation packages in Orlando, the Space Coast and elsewhere.

The Orient Queen is expected to operate out of Cruise Terminal 3, one of the small terminals on the south side of the port, near Jetty Park.

Canaveral Port Authority officials said Paradise Caribbean's plan fits their agenda to offer a wider variety of cruises.

Carnival, Disney and Royal Caribbean operate three- to seven-day cruises from Canaveral to the Bahamas and Caribbean. Paradise Caribbean would give Canaveral a shorter cruise offering.

"It's very exciting because (Paradise Caribbean) fills that slot" for short cruises, said Port Authority Chief Executive Officer Stan Payne.

Port officials also want a cruise line to offer 10- to 14-day cruises from Canaveral.

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Waynaro
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posted 04-20-2006 11:14 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow, I am surprised by this.

1. We see an executive that has failed several times to put together a successful cruise line.

2. I find it pathetic naming their company "Paradise Caribbean" - took the idea from Royal Caribbean?

3. Using the original(?) STARWARD will be interesting. She is be coming back to the waters she once served, though her age might be hard to compete?


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PamM
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posted 04-21-2006 04:30 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Abou Merhi [not the 'Mehri' above] have a very nice website with deck plans and many photos. She by all accounts had a very good upgrade last year.

I have no idea if she is now actually sailing the itineraries ex Beirut listed on the site? As to the FL proposal.. well, I don't think I would place any bets on it myself.

Pam


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Atlcruiser
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posted 04-21-2006 08:18 AM      Profile for Atlcruiser   Email Atlcruiser   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah this was my first ship back in 86. I loved the little Starward. Not sure that she can compete with the big boys down there as others have tried and failed.

Gordon


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 04-21-2006 12:45 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Waynaro:

3. Using the original(?) STARWARD will be interesting.


That is the original Starward of 1968. She (and her sister) were the follow up ships to the older and smaller Sunward.


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DAMBROSI
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posted 04-21-2006 08:21 PM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, I'm for it....I would love to sail on this ship...just for the 2 days. I don't live in a timeshare...But I would love to go on her, just to take photos, enjoy the food and get my cruise ship memorabilia. This would be a nice cruise for me to take by myself since Tony passed away 2 months ago.
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BigUFan
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posted 04-24-2006 01:06 PM      Profile for BigUFan   Author's Homepage   Email BigUFan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hope they fumigated that ship. My sister went on the Starward back in the early '80's, and encountered several cockroaches in her cabin. The experience had soured her on cruising for the past 20-odd years, but recently she tried again on a newer ship, much to her liking.
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MEA707
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posted 06-19-2006 06:05 PM      Profile for MEA707     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just got back from Beirut yesterday (beautiful city) and spotted the ORIENT QUEEN docked at port. She just started the 2006 summer season and is operating a one week long Mediterranean cruise routing Beirut - Port Said - Limassol - Rhodes - Marmaris - Antalya - Beirut departing every Tuesday from the Port of Beirut.

She looks very good from the outside. I forgot how many millions of dollars they spent on restoring it. They added a helicopter pad on its bow, so there were some changes to the exterior.

I picked up a brochure of the ORIENT QUEEN from the Abou Merhi Cruises main office in downtown Beirut and from the photos, the inside looks very nice and modern. There is a room full of Playstation 2 consoles for kids, I know those weren't around back in 1968 when she was built.

By the way, Abou Merhi Cruises' plans have always been to operate Mediterranean cruises in the summer from Beirut and charter her out to other companies during the winter season. Beirut (and much of the Mediterranean) gets gloomy and wet in the winter, so it's not an ideal time to operate cruises. The Dubai cruises were not successful, so there will not be a repeat of them. It was the vacation companies who chartered the her that lost though, not Abou Merhi Cruises, so they are still doing fine.


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PamM
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posted 06-19-2006 07:20 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Surely MEA707's are no longer, brings back a few memories! So Paradise Caribbean Cruise Lines would only charter the vessel for the winter months? If their proposal is still on the cards, I have not seen anything further mentioned since the original press releases.

The Abou Merhi website had some lovely photos of her, but it doesn't seem to be working this evening. Thanks for the update, good to hear she is now sailing again. Do they market outside of The Lebanon? I wonder what the pricing is like?

Pam


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MEA707
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posted 06-19-2006 08:59 PM      Profile for MEA707     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
PamM,

Yes, it would be only for the winter months. Abou Merhi Cruises would probably get her back in May in time to start the summer Mediterranean cruises.

I've read that Abou Merhi Cruises has signed agreements with travel agents in the region.

Regarding prices, there are different packages, I only have the prices for the 7 day cruise. They range from $1050 for a stateroom without a sea view to $7000 for a Royal Suite. These are the prices if you directly book through Abou Merhi Cruises and they may change. Travel agents will likely have different prices.


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Frosty 4
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posted 07-03-2006 02:13 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sounds like a cruise ala "The Lost Weekend". These short cruise wil draw the drunks out. Wonder when the first jumper will occur??
F4

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feargus
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posted 07-03-2006 03:05 PM      Profile for feargus   Email feargus   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
not too sure i would feel very safe on this orient queen, if you see the aboumerhi website under meet the crew the ship doesn't have any engineers onboard. just deck apes and hotel people runing the ship, the ship must be sail powered!!
then again most punters think ships are like cars, just turn the key and go.

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posted 07-04-2006 02:53 PM      Profile for Marlowe   Email Marlowe   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Where in the name of all that is holy does this guy continue to find people to put their money behind him?

You would think maybe after one failure a guy could rebound and find backers but this is number four for him!

Well, I said it here well before Ocean Club cruises even got started that the venture was doomed and I say it again now.

Doomed One...

Doomed Two...

Doomed Three...

Doomed Four (and hopefully for the last time!)

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