Fore here interiors, read somewhere that here new owners will restore here as new build with....... If this is still the case? But they must come up with something, her interiors are old fashioned and out of date. This a result of al those rebuilds and upgrades, she have received more then Cher in here life.

Think this project would be hugh, compared with the Rotterdam project.

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Originally posted by viking109:
And correct me if I'm wrong but are they still not the most powerful fitted to any currently active passenger liner.

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I've also heard that QE2 will be the centrepiece of a greater complex and that there will be no need to alter her physically (externally).

The only true fact is that no one outside the walls of the “QE2 Corporation” will know until sometime in 2009 when it all starts to happen - not even Dubai know what they’re going to do with her - I dare say.

Let's just enjoy QE2 while she still exists as she is!

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Originally posted by Ernst:
Yes, it of course makes sense to have a part of the engine room preserved but there are much more impressive, large engines on quite any contemporary cargo ship.

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You could say the same for the Shieldhall or any of the old Clyde puffers, but people still want to see those engines, too.

QE2's engines are quite impressive, though. The motors are nothing to sneeze at, at 65,000 shaft horsepower per screw. (Canberra's motors only did 42,500 shp per screw, which is also pretty much the average for traditional steam liners except the Big U which still only did 57K per screw.) The miles logged on QE2's engines is an impressive figure in and of itself. People may be curious as to the variable pitch propeller system.

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Originally posted by Lubber:

You could say the same for the Shieldhall or any of the old Clyde puffers, but people still want to see those engines, too.

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No, these are two very, very different cases. Mostly for three reasons:

First, the SS Shieldhall is still in operation whereas QE2 will be operated anymore when laid up in Dubai.

Second, these old engine rooms always were and still are impressive as one can actually see "something" - especially if it is a steam engine. Modern engines like those aboard QE2 are encased and not too many moving parts (if any) are visible.

See here:

QE2 refit on Rob Lightbody's excellent webpage

And for comparison some engine rooms where on can 'see something':

Video of Delta Queen's engine room

Engine room of Schoenbrunn

Third, right now - at the time when QE2 is retired - many "similar" setups like found aboard QE2 are still in operation (and are still built) whereas 'not too many' ships with engines like the SS Shielendall has were still in service when she was retired. (...and of course, 'not too many' ships were built with steam engines when SS Shielendall was retired....)

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The motors are nothing to sneeze at, at 65,000 shaft horsepower per screw. (Canberra's motors only did 42,500 shp per screw, which is also pretty much the average for traditional steam liners except the Big U which still only did 57K per screw.)

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The motors are indeed impressive - if something should be preserved then these motors.

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[...]The miles logged on QE2's engines is an impressive figure in and of itself.

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She was of course a fast ship and certainly has been operated differently than most other cruise ships but looking at 'the miles logged' is not always a fair comparison when evaluating the performance of her power plant.

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People may be curious as to the variable pitch propeller system.

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This can be found aboard many, many other ships too.

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Mostly, nobody really got to see it before, and it would be nice to have a look.

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To make this clear: I am not for carelessly scrapping her engines. It's only that they are FAR less impressive to look at than most people think and it would not be a big loss if parts of the engine room were removed. I persoanlly would still love to see this engine room (like quite any other engine room ) but it is hardly an attraction for the general public like mentioned above. Yes, one should keep parts of the engine room (e.g. the above mentioned motors) but it is not crucial to keep everything. I am not at all a big fan of static ships but if it helps to keep QE2 in whatever form I could certainly live with removing 'all' her engines if that should be necessary.

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Originally posted by Ernst:

To make this clear: I am not for carelessly scrapping her engines. It's only that they are FAR less impressive to look at than most people think

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Personally - when you're standing there, in the engine room, with those MASSIVE engines roaring around you - they seem pretty impressive.

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Personally - when you're standing there, in the engine room, with those MASSIVE engines roaring around you - they seem pretty impressive.

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Nevertheless, non roaring engines are already a different story.

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Originally posted by Patsy:
I hope I'll be proved wrong but with everything else out there she has a very slim chance of succeeding because they're all vying for the same business.

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Dubailand Entertainment Complex will be a $110 Billion dollar monster, housing a dozen full scale sized theme parks, a dozen golf courses, full scale replicas of the Eiffel Tower, Pyramids of Egypt, and Taj Mahal, a 6-mile long Vegas-style Strip (minus the casinos) jammed with 51 world-class hotels, a London Eye styled observation wheel, and the worlds largest shopping mall. (Source: USNaWR)

In China the smaller 1962 built ship ' Ming Hau ' is now completely land locked and converted into a very nice hotel.

There is also various restaurants on board which are open to the public.

She was built as the French ship Ancerville and bought by the Chinese in 1973.

She did have a spell cruising from Australia when owned by the Chinese.

No doubt it would be a much bigger operation to encase and land lock the hull of the QE 2 but with the money in Dubai anything is possible.

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No doubt it would be a much bigger operation to encase and land lock the hull of the QE 2 but with the money in Dubai anything is possible.

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The Queen Mary has been kept in Los Angeles for over 40 years, and she is semi land locked, so I would not think it would give to many problems in Dubai where they have the money to maintain such a project.

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The Queen Mary has been kept in Los Angeles for over 40 years, and she is semi land locked,

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Shes not land locked unless you are refering to the breakwater around her, but I don't if you can consider that the same as being land locked.

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With the money avalable to Dubai they could easily turn here into a 5 star hotel that would rival the others around her. If they couldn't I don't believe they would have bought her in the first place.

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