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Topic: QE2 Sold for Scrap

Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 12-23-2012 04:34 PM

After all the rumours of the past week or so, it's apparently official: QE2 has been sold for scrap to China. See story here.

Rich

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Michael534
First Class Passenger
Member # 2953

posted 12-23-2012 05:45 PM

How very sad. I guess we knew it was inevitable, but to hear it is still a shock.
We will miss you Old Girl. Though I never sailed her, I have seen her many times since her career started. Each time always as exciting as the last.

Rest in peace Queen Elizabeth 2. You will be greatly missed. But never forgotten.

Michael534

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 12-23-2012 06:00 PM

As sad as this news is, I think many of us quietly said our good-byes to QE2 several years ago when she ended service. Her life in Dubai always seemed somewhat doubtful, especially to hear the initial plans of basically turning her into some kind of land hotel, removing her funnel to make way for a glass penthouse, even lengthening the ship for a bona fide hotel section.

Perhaps it's better this way, to have her disappear to China; at least we will be spared seeing the vulgarity she could have become. Our memories of an old friend can remain untarnished.

Rich

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SSTRAVELER
First Class Passenger
Member # 15170

posted 12-24-2012 11:10 AM

Cunard has issued a statement flatly denying the media reports as pure speculation.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 12-24-2012 03:02 PM

If she has indeed been sold to Chinese scrappers, at least there will be few if any images of her being dismantled.

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DAMBROSI2
First Class Passenger
Member # 35998

posted 12-24-2012 06:12 PM

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 12-25-2012 02:36 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
Perhaps it's better this way, to have her disappear to China; at least we will be spared seeing the vulgarity she could have become. Our memories of an old friend can remain untarnished.
Rich

With her fame and legendary status I'm sure pictures will leak out and be plastered on every cruise forum from here to Timbuktu.

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Johan
First Class Passenger
Member # 4458

posted 12-25-2012 03:38 PM

I hope the artwork and cunard heritage souvenirs can be saved, in a dignified way.

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joe at travelpage
Administrator
Member # 622

posted 12-26-2012 03:51 PM

I heard a rumor that she is headed to Macau in China in February of 2013 to be opened as a casino? Anyone else have any information on this?

Joe at TravelPage.com

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SSTRAVELER
First Class Passenger
Member # 15170

posted 12-26-2012 05:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Johan:
I hope the artwork and cunard heritage souvenirs can be saved, in a dignified way.

They took all this stuff off the ship a few years ago and put it into storage for safe keeping ashore.

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SSTRAVELER
First Class Passenger
Member # 15170

posted 12-26-2012 05:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:
I heard a rumor that she is headed to Macau in China in February of 2013 to be opened as a casino? Anyone else have any information on this?
Joe at TravelPage.com

Macau is a safe bet because it is booming and I think they could use more attractions there. Problem is I am not sure it is a very upscale audience .... and if she is to open in February there are not going to be upgrading the hotel at all.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 12-26-2012 05:23 PM

I'm assuming she will lose her Cunard livery and iconic name if opened as a casino ship.

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Donald Johnson
First Class Passenger
Member # 50586

posted 12-26-2012 11:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
I'm assuming she will lose her Cunard livery and iconic name if opened as a casino ship.

If the Chinese are interested in a Oceanliner to use as a casino ship, why don't they use the SS Oceanic if it was not scrapped already since that ship is available for that sort of conversion to a casino ship.

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dmwnc1
Cruise Director
Member # 3785

posted 12-27-2012 12:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Donald Johnson:
If the Chinese are interested in a Oceanliner to use as a casino ship, why don't they use the SS Oceanic if it was not scrapped already since that ship is available for that sort of conversion to a casino ship.

I'm sure none of the interior spaces of he Oceanic can hold a candle to those of the QE2?

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Donald Johnson
First Class Passenger
Member # 50586

posted 12-27-2012 02:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
I'm sure none of the interior spaces of he Oceanic can hold a candle to those of the QE2?

That's why they renovate by gutting the passenger spaces to form larger cabin space into state rooms as they have done with the MS Mona Lisa in Oman.

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SSTRAVELER
First Class Passenger
Member # 15170

posted 12-27-2012 12:09 PM

The QE2 has a cache which they will no doubt be trading on if they make her a hotel and tourist attraction. The Oceanic (which has been scrapped now) did not have that cache to attract people from half way around the world.

The Mona Lisa (now Veronica) was very lucky that Daewoo needed something and they spent a lot of money to make her ready for the deployment. It is however only a three year assignment and after that her fate is just as much in jeopardy unless the owners find another spot where they desperately need accommodations and do not have time to wait for hotel rooms to be built.

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Guest
First Class Passenger
Member # 1157

posted 12-27-2012 08:48 PM

From what I am hearing the scrap story is pure speculation.

You just have to read the article to see it is poorly written and devoid of any official references to her actually being sold to a ship breakers.

As I understand it, more likely outcomes are:

1) Hotel use in Singapore / HK / Macau
2) QE2 London (evidently a viable plan with a financed business plan behind it however some snags that caused the article in the first place).

We know for sure her VShips crew left and a new crew are aboard.

Something is happening - though there is no hard fact that it involves scrap what so ever.

Remember to tag your QE2 Tweets #SavethrQE2 - she still has a future IMO.

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Donald Johnson
First Class Passenger
Member # 50586

posted 12-28-2012 04:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by SSTRAVELER:
The Oceanic (which has been scrapped now) did not have that cache to attract people from half way around the world.

Allan,
Do you know of anyone in China that has a picture of the Oceanic being scrapped? The ship does not appear on any known list of ships that has been sold for scrap to shipbreakers. If you know of anyone who can provide a picture of the ship being broken up, it will put the ship's fate to rest.

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SSTRAVELER
First Class Passenger
Member # 15170

posted 12-28-2012 01:44 PM

Yes I have seen a picture of the Oceanic being scrapped. As of November she was down to about the middle of the hull with everything above gone. So in all likelihood she is totally gone now depending on how fast the Chinese move.

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Donald Johnson
First Class Passenger
Member # 50586

posted 12-29-2012 03:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by SSTRAVELER:
Yes I have seen a picture of the Oceanic being scrapped. As of November she was down to about the middle of the hull with everything above gone. So in all likelihood she is totally gone now depending on how fast the Chinese move.

Incredible. I never knew that the Oceanic would be gone so fast. And the Chinese want the QE2? I feel that she would get scrapped over there as well.

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 12-29-2012 08:51 AM

China doesn't want these old liners for sentimental value, so let's disabuse ourselves of that notion right away. They need steel for hundreds of new skyscrapers and bridges, millions of cars, etc. A ship like QE2 represents many thousands of tons of material for those things.

Rich

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Donald Johnson
First Class Passenger
Member # 50586

posted 12-29-2012 12:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
China doesn't want these old liners for sentimental value, so let's disabuse ourselves of that notion right away. They need steel for hundreds of new skyscrapers and bridges, millions of cars, etc. A ship like QE2 represents many thousands of tons of material for those things.
Rich

Rich,
Imagine if the Chinese decided to acquire the SS Rotterdam in 2003? She would have been long gone by now. There are only two options for the QE2: London or China.

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VDK
First Class Passenger
Member # 3460

posted 12-29-2012 02:23 PM

SSTRAVELER, where did you see the picture of OCEANIC and is it possible to share with us?

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jetwet1
First Class Passenger
Member # 6361

posted 01-17-2013 07:15 AM

Well we jumped the gun, QE2 sold to a Singapore group to be turned into a luxury hotel.

Being reported by the Financial Times.

It's hiding behind the FT.com paywall. But HERE is the
headline.

Yahoo has picked it up now LINK

[ 01-17-2013: Message edited by: jetwet1 ]

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Globaliser
First Class Passenger
Member # 4153

posted 01-17-2013 11:28 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jetwet1:
Being reported by the Financial Times.
It's hiding behind the FT.com paywall. But HERE is the
headline.

Occasional readers of the FT online may be able to see the story via Google.

[ 01-17-2013: Message edited by: Globaliser ]

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