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joe at travelpage
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Member # 622

posted 12-30-2002 05:35 PM

Can anyone tell me which ship this is?

It is part of a new operation that will sail out of Port Canaveral as Ocean Club Cruises.

According to their web site...

quote:
Ocean Club Cruises will operate premium 2 & 3-night cruises from Port Canaveral and will package hotels and attractions and other vacation components from the Space Coast and Orlando area. “We look forward to developing new and exciting cruise & land vacation options with many of the central Florida attractions and hotel community,” Hentz said. The Cruise Company expects many of its cruise passengers will select a pre/post beach or Orlando stay.

Joe at TravelPage.com

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 12-30-2002 05:46 PM

Joe, there was a thread earlier here at cruise talk about this new cruise line. Click the word "thread" for the link. The ship is called the MV Magic 1.

[ 12-30-2002: Message edited by: Keitaro ]

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jeffrossatsea
First Class Passenger
Member # 2962

posted 12-30-2002 10:46 PM

she will be named the "mirage" starting march 2003 in port canaveral....jeff

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Amerikanis
First Class Passenger
Member # 1835

posted 12-31-2002 07:34 AM

It is the AZUR, i made 4 Cruises on her in 1992,
1993 (2) and 1995.

The first 3 are under CHANDRIS, the last was under FESTIVAL.

The Ship is now rated 2 Stars and a plus and is in the Med. for Festival.

It is their most unattractive Ship.

She entered Service as EAGLE, in 1971.

Other Names: Aegean, Azur, the Azur.

Tons: 14717
Lifestyle: Standard
Builder: Dubigeon-Normandie, France
Registry: Panama
Lenght: 142 Meters
Beam: 21,9 Meters
Draft: 5,73 Meters
Power: 2 Diesels, 22000 Horsepower
Pax. Decks: 7
Crew: 350
Pax: 720, all berth 850
Space Ratio: 20,4, all berth: 17,3
Crew Ratio: 2,4
Officers: Greek
Cabins: 361, 148 outside, 213 inside
Cabins Space: 8,8 - 19,7 Square Meters
Dining Rooms: 1
Elevators: 3
Pools: 2 outside
Cinema: yes, 175 Seats
Library: yes

Balconies, Inside Pool, Whirlpools, Steamroom, Massage, Launderette: ALL NO!

Be careful! Cabin Size, Pools (tiny) and open Deck Space for Sunbathing are LOUSY!

On the other Hand, there is on Top an small Deck for Nude Sunbathing...

The Food is of an medium to good Quality, the Service was friendly and attentive.

The Ship is an Offer for strictly BUDGET CRUISING.

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Amerikanis
First Class Passenger
Member # 1835

posted 12-31-2002 07:42 AM

I forgot to tell, that she started her Life as an FERRY (roll on-roll off System).

Former Ferrys are NEVER the best Cruiseships,
they are built for fast and cheap Transport, and their Cabins are relatively LITTLE.

O.K.: for an 3 Day Cruise an little Cabin is no Problem, for long-term Cruises the Ship is not good. They are a little bit Spartan, no Safe, no TV, very little Showerroom (of course, the smaller Cabins have only 8,8 Squaremeters including Closet and Shower).

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Jekyll
First Class Passenger
Member # 1878

posted 12-31-2002 09:32 AM

For some reason I am thinking it might be the former Finnstar (or Pearl of Scandinavia) - it looks too streamlined to be the Azur which I always felt was top heavy...

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WhiteStar
First Class Passenger
Member # 2740

posted 12-31-2002 09:49 AM

It looks similar to the Azur but I don't think it is since the Azur is still showing itineries on First European"s web site. I'll go with Jeff's guess of "Mirage" for 2003.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 12-31-2002 10:18 AM

I am totally confused. Mirage? Apart from Joe's file name of oc-mirage, not sure where the name comes from.
The picture appears to me to be a bit of photoshopping with slight upper changes on the Azur photo in the 'ships review section'?
Ocean Club Cruises are calling their ship Magic I according to the press releases, and is the Bolero [sis of Azur]. The super structure is slightly different and varies to the above photo, the photo on the faktaomfartyg site does not make Magic I look anywhere near as nice as the above photo.
Pam..

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WhiteStar
First Class Passenger
Member # 2740

posted 12-31-2002 10:37 AM

Pam - I'm only going with Jeff's guess because he sounded so confident. You may be right though.

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joe at travelpage
Administrator
Member # 622

posted 12-31-2002 10:47 AM

They are calling her Mirage on the Ocean Club Cruises web site..

I knew I had seen her before but couldn't remember which ship she was. Thanks for the link to the previous thread.

The picture does look like a photoshop update of the Azur.

Joe at TravelPage.com

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 12-31-2002 11:14 AM

Wonder if Disney objected to Magic?
Pam
[If I had read the press release properly I would have seen it said the curretn mv Magic I, to be renamed on arrival in the US!]

[ 12-31-2002: Message edited by: PamM ]

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 12-31-2002 11:28 AM

Besides the photo in the other thread, here's another.

Pam

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 12-31-2002 12:51 PM

quote:
Origianlly posted by Amerikanis
Former Ferrys are NEVER the best Cruiseships,
they are built for fast and cheap Transport, and their Cabins are relatively LITTLE.

The Viking Seranade that used to be with RCCL (now Island Escape) turned out pretty well.

Also on their website it said "...with oversized staterooms, a full Vegas style casino, flex dining with gourmet cuisine and much much more, we promise you will have a grand experience, and that's just on board! So join the Club today and see what it's like to Cruise the Ocean Club way..." Here is a deck plan on the ship and wondering how they could fit 850 passengers?

[ 12-31-2002: Message edited by: Keitaro ]

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HomeLines
First Class Passenger
Member # 1707

posted 01-01-2003 09:59 AM

This has to be someone's fantasy. The site says they've been operating in the Med for 3 years, that's not true. And that logo is a modification of the last Premier Cruises logo. That ship is definitely the Azur.

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Christophe D
First Class Passenger
Member # 1680

posted 01-01-2003 11:29 AM

I think that it's not the Azur but this sister-ship Massalia.

The Massalia was operate by Paquet and after she became a ferry, Scandinavian Star if my memory is good. The ferry was rebuilt after a big fire.

After, i don't no what happed the ship.

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 01-01-2003 12:20 PM

My husband and I sailed on 2 ferries, converted to cruise
ships and we loved it. They were: SCANDINAVIAN SUN (formerly CARIBE) and the CROWN DEL MAR. Both excellent cruises and far more personal than the big floating things out there now. We welcome them to the
port, already requested a brochure. And can't wait to go, we are impressed with her.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 01-01-2003 01:57 PM

quote:
Orignally posted by Christophe D
I think that it's not the Azur but this sister-ship Massalia.
The Massalia was operate by Paquet and after she became a ferry, Scandinavian Star if my memory is good. The ferry was rebuilt after a big fire.
After, i don't no what happed the ship.

If these two ships were sisters, how can this ship look exactly like The Azur?

Here is a picture of the fire.

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Chip
First Class Passenger
Member # 3576

posted 01-02-2003 03:03 PM

I just received the February 2003 issue of Cruise Travel magazine. In the magazine there is a cruise ship guide. According to the guide the Magic 1 has also sailed under the names
Bolero,Scandinavica, Jupiter, Crucero Express, and Seminole Empress. The name Bolero sounded familiar and I thought it might be one of NCL's former ships. According the Berlitz cruise book I have the Bolero was NCL's Starward.

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Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 01-02-2003 03:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Chip
The name Bolero sounded familiar and I thought it might be one of NCL's former ships. According the Berlitz cruise book I have the Bolero was NCL's Starward.

You are 100 percent right.

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vulcania
First Class Passenger
Member # 822

posted 01-02-2003 04:18 PM

This little ship was NEVER the AZUR, but she WAS the BOLERO - of Fred. Olsen Lines, NOT Festival. Festivals' BOLERO was NCL's STARWARD (EVERYBODY knows THAT). As for MAGIC operating in the Mediterranean for the past three years...she DID indeed...under the operation of an Israeli company, which I THINK was calling itself MAGIC CRUISE LINE of Israel, catering to Hebrew speaking, Israeli passengers (not sure if her kitchens were Kosher, but it wouldn't surprise me). With the current political situation in the Eastern Mediterranean, it looks no longer likely that Magic nor MANO CRUISES, another Israeli charterer (had the SILVER STAR, ex BASHKIRIA) will remain active.

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