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Topic: News about Veronica ex. Mona Lisa, Kungsholm

thundergod
First Class Passenger
Member # 5619

posted 12-05-2011 08:04 AM

Found this article about her. I think the solution that came out for her is quite nice in the end.Veronica

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Donald Johnson
First Class Passenger
Member # 50586

posted 01-05-2012 02:17 PM

Here is the owners new Facebook page on the ship:

The MV Veronica

What are your thoughts about the ship's renovation? Doesn't look bad at all. I hope that the ship does well in her new role. If only they put back the divits and life boats back on the ship. Then it would be ok.

[ 01-19-2012: Message edited by: Donald Johnson ]

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 01-05-2012 04:11 PM

The pictures of the cabins look nice at a first glance but one finally does not see too much. Whether this is still Kungsholm is another story.

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Johan
First Class Passenger
Member # 4458

posted 01-05-2012 04:18 PM

It seems as if some money was spent, and there was a plan for the reconversion. Are cabins put together like with the Rotterdam (V) ? J

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Maru
First Class Passenger
Member # 3500

posted 01-05-2012 05:37 PM

Official website ?
web page

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dougnewman
First Class Passenger
Member # 11349

posted 01-06-2012 11:22 PM

I wonder who decided it was a good idea to paint over most of the woodwork in the cabins.

It's hard to judge much from the photos that exist but of course this project is not about historic preservation, this simply happened to be a ship that was available, cheap, and in good condition.

Anyway, it is not as though P&O did not already spend a lot of time and money progressively destroying the original ship.

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thundergod
First Class Passenger
Member # 5619

posted 01-08-2012 03:34 PM

I think the conversation is ok. And it is clear that quite a large amount of money have been spent. I think it was necesary to put some of the old staterooms together to get decent size modern hotel rooms. It would be very interesting to see how the public rooms looks. Specially the dining room.

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thundergod
First Class Passenger
Member # 5619

posted 01-08-2012 03:35 PM

The davits and lifeboats will surely be back soon. The owners have stated that they will keep the engines working and moce the ship around the persian gulf for big events etc.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 01-08-2012 04:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by thundergod:
The davits and lifeboats will surely be back soon. The owners have stated that they will keep the engines working and moce the ship around the persian gulf for big events etc.

This are good news but it's not necessarily the case that she will need her old lifeboats back for doing that.

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Neil - Ex P. & O. S. N. Company.
First Class Passenger
Member # 5641

posted 01-08-2012 06:20 PM

Perhaps only a small number of boats will be required if she is moved to another port with just the crew on board.

Regarding woodwork I wonder if it has been removed so that she meets the Solas 2010 regulations.

[ 01-08-2012: Message edited by: Neil - Ex P. & O. S. N. Company. ]

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 01-08-2012 09:38 PM

I wonder if rafts would be used instead of any lifeboats. The Independence sailed for 5-years w/most of her lifeboats removed.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 01-09-2012 04:33 AM

They could just take on rafts if ever needed. I doubt she is SOLAS compliant Neil as they would have had to compromise the asbestos removing her wood and I gather that is not the case.
She won't need to be compliant where she is, and probably not either if she ever just moves around the Gulf States. The GCC have a set of Seaport rules and may well give exemption in such cases [with vessels between the member ports?] - I don't know and am not going to go and find out though

she will probably never move.

Pam

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Neil - Ex P. & O. S. N. Company.
First Class Passenger
Member # 5641

posted 01-09-2012 06:19 PM

There appears to be no AIS signal coming from her so expect if she is moved she could be excempt.

With the pictures at present available she certainly looks nice inside.

Lets hope some more are available.

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Donald Johnson
First Class Passenger
Member # 50586

posted 01-09-2012 06:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Neil - Ex P. & O. S. N. Company.:
There appears to be no AIS signal coming from her so expect if she is moved she could be excempt.
With the pictures at present available she certainly looks nice inside.
Lets hope some more are available.
.

Here is the revised link to the Veronica:

The Veronica

[ 01-09-2012: Message edited by: Donald Johnson ]

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dougnewman
First Class Passenger
Member # 11349

posted 01-12-2012 10:38 AM

Quite a mix of 1960s SAL, 1970s-1980s P&O/Princess, a touch of 2000s German (the beer pub type room), and now 2010s Middle Eastern Moderne.

The wood that was left in the public rooms is still there so it is obviously not a SOLAS issue. I guess someone just didn't like it in the cabins.

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Noordam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3811

posted 01-13-2012 01:00 PM

I sort of love it. However, the thing that really makes me smile, is seeing the old CANBERRA chairs in the dining room.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 01-15-2012 12:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Maru:
Official website ?
web page

I see that there are now wonderfully detailed deck plans as well as additional images added to the site. Her 'hotel rooms' look fantastic.

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 01-15-2012 01:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
I see that there are now wonderfully detailed deck plans as well as additional images added to the site. Her 'hotel rooms' look fantastic.

Yes I saw those too. They are awesome.

This ship has a very special place in my heart. I have sailed her twice and also met the first love of my life onboard. Amazing memories.

Ernie

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Donald Johnson
First Class Passenger
Member # 50586

posted 01-15-2012 03:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
I see that there are now wonderfully detailed deck plans as well as additional images added to the site. Her 'hotel rooms' look fantastic.

I am glad to see that someone took a chance on the Mona Lisa. They certainly provided an example that under the right circumstance, an old ship can be renovated into a 4-Star hotel that attracts non-ship lovers. This is the second ship (after the SS Rotterdam)to become a hotel. And it didn't go over budget because of asbestos or extreme regulation issues that plagued the renovation of the SS Rotterdam.

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 01-15-2012 04:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Donald Johnson:
And it didn't go over budget because of asbestos or extreme regulation issues that plagued the renovation of the SS Rotterdam.

Very true. The same out-of-control costs that happened w/Rotterdam V plauged the Queen Mary rebuilding in 1968-70. $70,000,000. in late 1960s dollars!

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r.fiebig
First Class Passenger
Member # 5240

posted 01-15-2012 05:47 PM

quote:
I see that there are now wonderfully detailed deck plans as well as additional images added to the site. Her 'hotel rooms' look fantastic.

I'd love to see those, but somehow cannot find them on the web site. Where exactly can they be found, please?

Thanks,

Raoul

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 01-15-2012 06:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by r.fiebig:
I'd love to see those, but somehow cannot find them on the web site. Where exactly can they be found, please?
Thanks,
Raoul

They were there yesterday. They have been removed from the site.

Ernie

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r.fiebig
First Class Passenger
Member # 5240

posted 01-15-2012 06:10 PM

Thanks, Ernie. Too bad. Did anybody download them by chance, so they might be posted here?

Best,

Raoul

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 01-15-2012 06:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by r.fiebig:
Thanks, Ernie. Too bad. Did anybody download them by chance, so they might be posted here?

Best,
Raoul

I wish I did Raoul. You couldn't look at them as one plan. You could only view one deck at a time, and they were pretty small but when you ran your curser over an area it enlarged the area on a side view.

Ernie

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 01-15-2012 08:59 PM

Raoul,
Try this link. It was posted on LL and should work for the deck plans.

Enjoy.

Ernie

http://veronicaduqm.com/home/page/deck/1.htm

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