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Onno
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posted 03-17-2005 07:05 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello all,

I have reached another step in finishing my Spirit of London model. I further detailed the model and like most of my other ship models I have constructed the base for a dynamic sea diorama. There is still some work left, I need to scratch build the lounge and mast, I have been putting it off for a while because I’m still not sure what is the best way to construct the curved lounge. I also need to make a mould for replicating lifeboats and her foredeck need further detailing.

Anyway here are a couple of pictures and a link to a little web page with more pictures and illustrations.
Spirit of London model

Onno


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Ernst
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posted 03-17-2005 07:12 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very nice model, very nice homepage! Thank you for posting!

P.S.: Where did you get the plans? I always have problems getting plans of passenger ships. Or is this one of the reasons why you build in 1:600, so that you can use the plans from the brouchure? (there are of course many other reason for this scale)


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Onno
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posted 03-17-2005 07:40 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Ernst,

I know it is difficult to obtain good plans. Before the 80’s cruise brochures and companies gave accurate deck plans but today’s abstract colour patches are no good at all (neither to the modeller or a future passenger wanting to fantasize about walking trough the ship)

Good GA plans are the best and the hardest to find, to be honest I often work purely from looking at pictures of the ship and then figuring out the shapes. Scale 1:600 suits me best, large enough to be taken serious and not as a toy and small enough not to spend years on small details and rivet counting. I also have something for water line models, from a photographers point of view this is the way I perceive ships and since I want to capture a ships essence with my models I make them water line. Water line also eliminates the most difficult under water shapes of the ship. (another advantage when you can not find good GA plans.) Before I start a model I digitally draw the decks so that I get an accurate shape and then print them for further use. If I have plans for hull frames I use those to create the hull but if I only have the decks I use them as a sandwich to create the hull.

If you are interested, here on CT are several other modelling projects of mine.

Onno


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Ernst
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posted 03-17-2005 08:02 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello Onno,

sadly I have not been as smart and started some 1:100 models....I guess in some decades I will have some pictures to post.
The quality of deck plans did not really improve. But also the old "to-the-scale" plans do not show all decks, and rarely a side view. Luckily some yards were nice, and "Navimodellisti Bolognesi" is of course a good resource.

I generally do not understand why there are nearly no models of passenger ships around. (Or do they actually know how ugly their ships are?)
For a reasonable scale, like 1:600 there would be a market, not only for travel agents, but also as a souvenir. Even if you sell kits, people will buy them e.g. as present for their grand children. (selling kits, one must not care, wheter they are built )
Giving the number of passengers, the increasing number of sister ships, and the possibility to even sell some via the internet, this should be enough to be economically sucessful.
But also models of the more beautiful old ships are rare. Very, very strange, as ships are not so unpopular for decoration.
So I guess we have to continue to build them on our own.

Greetings

Ernst

P.S.: Anyone her is cordially invited to give me advice, where plans of the following ships are available: (I already posted this list today, sorry)

Illiria, Atlas (Ryndam), Crystal Harmony, Galaxy, Sagafjord


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Waynaro
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posted 03-17-2005 11:22 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great job Onno!
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Vaccaro
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posted 03-18-2005 01:58 AM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As usual, very good work Onno. Congratulations!

My scratch built models (non-existing ships but creations) almost always lacked of lifeboats too. I always thoutgh it was perhaps the most off-putting, uninteresting and unplesant part of building a ship model (same thing in 3D-modeling, though in a lesser extend).


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Ernst
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posted 03-18-2005 04:35 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess a lot of model builders hate life boats. (and windows)
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posted 03-18-2005 04:53 AM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello Onno,
thanks for your pictures.
It is amazing what you can do !!

I must say, I agree with you about those 70's cruise ships. They have something, and are more interesting than one thought in the '70s.
I must confess however, at the time, when Princess had the Pacific/Island PRincess, and this Sun PRincess, I liked the sisters better than this one. I guess this was because they were a bit more traditional in design, than this streamlined ship.

'Spirit of London' is a nice name, better, than Sun Princess, although that SOL is named SUN later is perhaps only apt...

The name-giving department at P&O/Princess can be subtle at times (cfr. Royal Princess/Artemis)


J


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posted 03-18-2005 07:17 AM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Onno

I think your models are absolutely amazing. And one of the things I love about ship models the most is that they allow you to notice things about ships that you have never seen before. For instance, I was really surprised at how similar the stern of Spirit of London is to the rebuilt back of Sea Princess/Victoria!!!!

Thanks so much for sharing this with us.

M


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posted 03-18-2005 04:10 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Brilliant Onno! I even love the way you have made the sea.
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posted 03-18-2005 07:37 PM      Profile for claudio   Email claudio   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
great job i sailed aboard her in australia in 1997 as southern cross of ctc had agreat time she was a abit of a roller i used to sit just behind diso and watch that massive funnel rolling side to side one thing i dont like about this ship it has no pronenade deck one alway had to go up top to see the outside worldctc
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Onno
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posted 03-18-2005 08:36 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Claude asked me to post his picture of Southern Cross, she is quite a roller!

Onno


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sslewis
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posted 03-20-2005 08:38 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Onno,
I note a little spoiler aft of her funnel(Mini Angie/Mike). Was it there as new or added by Princess?

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Waynaro
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posted 03-20-2005 11:52 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by sslewis:
Onno,
I note a little spoiler aft of her funnel(Mini Angie/Mike). Was it there as new or added by Princess?


Hi Louy, it was added by Premier.

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Onno
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posted 03-20-2005 01:00 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is a sketch I made of the funnel changes.
During the Premier conversion the funnel lost the upper curved ring which left the top of the inner pipes now exposed. Premier also added the fin at the beck of the funnel. Perhaps the top ring was deleted to get a better air flow so that the fin functioned better.

Onno


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sslewis
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posted 03-21-2005 09:20 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks a lot mates!
I now see the Leo connection too!
Many ships have a funnel deck house receding in hight towards the rear..very nice Sketch Onno

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Ernst
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posted 03-21-2005 09:41 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Isn`t she (the Spirit of London) one of the very few ships, which has been nearly completed at the slip-way? (at least the exterior. I remember a photo, but I am not sure)
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Onno
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posted 03-21-2005 10:08 AM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes she was (externally, don’t know about interior though). Maybe because she is so small that her builders were already finished before the launch ceremony.

Onno


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Vaccaro
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posted 03-21-2005 01:05 PM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
Isn`t she (the Spirit of London) one of the very few ships, which has been nearly completed at the slip-way? (at least the exterior. I remember a photo, but I am not sure)

Indeed Ernst, you're right.

Here's an old thread from 5 years ago where I had posted a picture of her launching. For some reason, I've always loved this image.


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Ernst
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posted 03-21-2005 01:11 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank You! Love it too.

quote:
Originally posted by Vaccaro:

Indeed Ernst, you're right.

Here's an old thread from 5 years ago where I had posted a picture of her launching. For some reason, I've always loved this image.



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posted 03-21-2005 01:38 PM      Profile for PHILPKH923   Email PHILPKH923   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Onno
An interesting ship and a model.

What ever became of your Potsdam project?

Kenneth.....

[ 03-21-2005: Message edited by: Kenneth ]


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sslewis
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posted 03-22-2005 07:39 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Vaccaro,
What a splash she did at her launch mate!
Wow, I wonder if a footage exists?
She was quite spectacular on trials too, with a huge bow wave almost reaching the fordeck!
Onno's presentation is good for reflections though and I can't wait to see her next to another P&O ship

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Gday Claudio...............I too sailed on her for CTC but i did the line voyage from Sydney to London for 6 weeks...........was great ! and have many happy memories of the ship
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Onno,

I noticed the pic showing the embarkation platform, which is mostly obscured by the boats when in the davits. The superstructure on that deck is the dining room. That bulkhead running the length of the embarkation platform has a series of large round windows (from the dining salon). I believe I sent you a picture of the embarkation deck depicting them.

Nice work on the model. I still have to find more of my Majestic pictures from my days aboard here with Premier. It sure would be more help if I did!


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Onno
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posted 03-22-2005 02:13 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Mike, you pictures were/are a great help to me. I decided to keep the bulk head behind the lifeboats more or less clean. When the lifeboats 9which I still need to fabricate) are in place the windows would not be all that visible anyway. Nevertheless tanks for indicating the large round restaurant windows.

I’m right now constructing the ocean view lounge and again you pictures are up on my laptop, they show nicely the curved window pattern of the lounge.

Onno


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