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posted 12-26-2012 04:37 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From Carnival:

Carnival Cruise Lines will expand capacity on the West Coast with the introduction of year-round three and four-day cruises on the 2,052-passenger Carnival Imagination from Long Beach, Calif., beginning January 26, 2014. The move will bring the total number of Carnival ships operating from Long Beach to three and further solidify the line’s position as Southern California’s largest cruise operator.

Carnival Imagination will offer three-day cruises to Ensenada, Mexico, departing on Thursdays and four-day voyages to Catalina Island and Ensenada departing on Sundays. The vessel’s sister ship, Carnival Inspiration, will continue to offer a similar program from Long Beach with three-day cruises departing on Fridays and four-day cruises on Mondays. Additionally, the seven-day Mexican Riviera and 15-day Hawaii programs from Long Beach currently operated by the Carnival Splendor through February 3, 2013 will continue on the Carnival Miracle seasonally from October 2013 through April 2014. Together, these ships will carry approximately 550,000 guests annually from Long Beach – more than any other cruise operator.

Carnival Imagination has undergone an extensive renovation and includes an expansive WaterWorks aqua park, a Serenity adults-only retreat, and a tropical-themed resort-style main pool area, renovated spa and children’s facilities, and more.

Carnival Ecstasy, currently sailing from Port Canaveral, Fla., will reposition to Miami to assume Carnival Imagination’s current three- and four-day Bahamas/western Caribbean itinerary. A sister ship to Carnival Imagination, the Carnival Ecstasy features a number of balcony staterooms, which is a ‘first’ for a Carnival ship operating short cruises from Miami. Carnival Ecstasy’s first voyage from Miami will depart January 10, 2014. Three-day cruises departing Fridays visit Nassau and four-day cruises departing Mondays visit Key West and Cozumel.

Prior to the start-up of its new West Coast schedule, Carnival Imagination will offer a 16-day Panama Canal cruise departing Miami January 10, 2014, and arriving Long Beach January 26, 2014.

In addition to a full transit of the Panama Canal, ports of call on this voyage include Grand Cayman, Montego Bay, Cartagena, Punta Arenas, Puerto Vallarta and Cabo San Lucas


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Carnival seems to be the last bastion of hope for those wanting to cruise year round on the west coast.
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posted 12-27-2012 07:37 AM      Profile for jetwet1   Author's Homepage   Email jetwet1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The same ports over and over again, it makes me sad that no line is willing to develop new ports, on the east coast there is a great deal of choice, on the west coast we have :

Ensenada, PV, Cabo, Mazatlan and Catalina....Once and a while a line will go nuts and offer La Paz...Great.

I am amazed that no line has bothered to go the route of constructing a private island type environment somewhere along the Baja coast, away from the drug and crime problems, somewhere like Isla Santa Margarita.

And while I am thinking about it, great, another Fantasy class ship with only balconies on the suites.

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Maybe in 2016 when the new Oasis-class comes out RCI will re-position one of its Vision-class out to California for some competition on Grand Princess's itineraries out of SF she begins next year. Looks like they are a step ahead of the game.
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posted 12-30-2012 02:10 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There are a limited number of warm weather ports that can be visited during a 3-4-7 day cruise from LA. Other than Ensenada, there are no large ports on the Baja peninsula except Cabo over 500 miles south. Cabo as a port is ok but the big draw in that area are the 5-star resorts which attracts wealthy people who generally do not take cruises. Baja and most of the Mexican west coast is very safe with the drug violence taking place closer to the US-Mexico border near Texas.

Other options are summer cruises up the coast from LA but once you pass Santa Barbara (no port facilities), the gorgeous California coast is often chilly even in summer months and there are no ports until you reach San Francisco.

For the time being, the only warm-weather options are the usual ports on Mexico's west.


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Who cares!!!!

Mexico and Carnival. NO Thanks.

Frosty 4


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I did a MR cruise on HAL five years ago. While it was nice, it's a been there....done that type of cruise. It was in March out of San Diego and it was too cool for the first and last two days to enjoy the balcony.

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I just can't seem to bring myself to do a Mexican Riviera cruise for some reason. I know I've said this before but its 'Mexico' and three ports in Mexico. It seems like it would all be the same, unlike the Caribbean where Cozumel looks nothing like St. Thomas or Aruba (even though they have pretty much the same tourist trap diamond and tanzanite stores). I was very close this past year (2012) to booking the Zaandam out of San Diego, but I was more excited about the 'San Diego' part than I was the 'Mexico' part. So I opted for the Caribbean again. This year and next will also be the Caribbean but cruising more for the ship than the destinations. I don't suppose I'll ever make it back over to the 'left coast' again.
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a country famous for its lack of cuisine and manana spirit would be a good idea is beyond me.
from the departed MEC1; his opinion of Mexico

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The allure of a Mexican crew? Doubtful as most North Americans equate Mexico with illegal immigrants, spring break and cheap, fast food.

Tim


another view

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quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
I just can't seem to bring myself to do a Mexican Riviera cruise for some reason. I know I've said this before but its 'Mexico' and three ports in Mexico. It seems like it would all be the same, unlike the Caribbean where Cozumel looks nothing like St. Thomas or Aruba (even though they have pretty much the same tourist trap diamond and tanzanite stores). I was very close this past year (2012) to booking the Zaandam out of San Diego, but I was more excited about the 'San Diego' part than I was the 'Mexico' part. So I opted for the Caribbean again. This year and next will also be the Caribbean but cruising more for the ship than the destinations. I don't suppose I'll ever make it back over to the 'left coast' again.

Actually, the 3 ports are very different, you just need to look past the port area.

In PV we go zip lining, lots of fun for the day.

Mazatlan (when we actually make it there, 3 times out of 9 cruises) is a beach day.

Cabo, I have a friend that has a restaurant, so we go and eat there, unless Sammy Hager is in town, then we have lunch with him and his family...Naming dropping I know , but in the end, it is still the same 3 ports time and again.

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quote:
Originally posted by jetwet1:

Actually, the 3 ports are very different, you just need to look past the port area.

In PV we go zip lining, lots of fun for the day.

Mazatlan (when we actually make it there, 3 times out of 9 cruises) is a beach day.

Cabo, I have a friend that has a restaurant, so we go and eat there, unless Sammy Hager is in town, then we have lunch with him and his family...Naming dropping I know , but in the end, it is still the same 3 ports time and again.

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I'm not particularly active on vacations and rarely venture past the port area, and depending on the port I won't make it past the end of the pier. This last cruise was the first time I've done a shore excursion in quite some time and only because I wanted to see St. John more than St. Thomas.

I have never been fond of the beach, shopping, or hanging out at local bars since I don't drink alcohol. This sort of limits my activities. If a port has some amazing cultural or architectural points of interest that may be an option but at this point in my cruising history (and for the foreseeable future) I'm just doing it for the 'ship' and not the itinerary. And sorry, but there aren't too many interesting ships leaving out of southern California as we all know.


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In that case, the current ports are not for you and that is part of the issue.

We did a 10 day cruise a couple of years ago on the Carnival Spirit, it also hit Acapulco and Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo.

Zihuatanejo was a great port, a very charming "old Mexico" down town that I really liked.


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The best itinerary I ever experienced was out of San Pedro this past April....Santa Barbara, San Francisco, San Diego and Ensenada. Wonderful. Not being a fan of Mexico, and since I had already been to Ensenada, we just walked around the pier there and took pics of the ship.

Perhaps it's just a little too upscale for Carnival!

-Russ


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Hi Russ,

I actually looked at one of those fall sailings of the California Coastals that Princess Cruises offers, but the price looked higher than what the cruise was worth. Seems like I could take Amtrak up the coast and actually stay overnight at each place for the same cost or cheaper and just skip Ensenada all together!


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We did that cruise by accident a couple of years ago during the H1N1 outbreak, I was actually unhappy that Princess would not allow us to cancel, but it turned into a nice cruise, though the seas heading north to SO were brutal.

As for the Carnival bashing...I hate to break the news to some of you, but they have some of the best beds afloat, along with the linens and the steak houses beat the heck out of the steakhouses on Princess, HAL and RCL.


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celebrity beats all those...for beds and meals
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We and a few friends did a very fun 4-day to Cabo from San Diego on RCIs Radiance of the Seas a few years ago and I would do it again in a second.

The itinerary was perfect w/two sea days and one day in Cabo. I can take or leave Cabo (we had lunch at the One and Only as past guests which was great) and the sea days were gorgeous.

The weather could not have been better while at sea w/warm breezes blowing over the decks during our mid-November trip. The ship was also cruising at a nice rate of speed down (around 24 knots) and a bit faster northbound to avoid a hurricane coming from the southwest.

It never felt like a tacky party cruise and the ship never felt crowded. We had a nice connecting standard veranda (w/a massive veranda aft) for around $400.00 per person which was a deal! We dined in the two specialty restaurants for every dinner which was very reasonably priced and offered excellent food and service. One of our friends had never been on a cruise and thought it was the best short get-away he had ever had.

That is a short cruise the various lines should do more often.


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quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
That is a short cruise the various lines should do more often.

Any short cruise from LA or San Diego that doesn't include Catalina Island and Ensenada is a huge plus. I wonder why the cruise lines won't do more of these hops down to
Cabo like a 5-nighter?


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I agree on Celebrity!!

F4


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quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:

Any short cruise from LA or San Diego that doesn't include Catalina Island and Ensenada is a huge plus. I wonder why the cruise lines won't do more of these hops down to
Cabo like a 5-nighter?


That cruise we did was a perfect short cruise. As I recall, we departed San Diego on Thursday around 5:00pm, had a sea day on Friday and arrived at Cabo on Saturday morning. After a day (a short day which is all you need) in Cabo we departed around 4:00pm and had another sea day on Sunday before arriving in SD at dawn on Monday. Many people only needed to take one-day off of work for this weekend get-away.

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For some reason it seems like most people west of the Mississippi want to cruise the Caribbean, but most people east of the Mississippi won't travel to the west coast for a cruise unless its to Alaska or Hawaii. Anything south of San Diego gets forgotten about.
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quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
For some reason it seems like most people west of the Mississippi want to cruise the Caribbean, but most people east of the Mississippi won't travel to the west coast for a cruise unless its to Alaska or Hawaii. Anything south of San Diego gets forgotten about.

My take as an East Coaster, there is not much to see on the Mexican Riviera that is not on any Carribean Island.

Alaska and Hawaii are unique places unlike anything East of the Mississippi, and incredibly beautiful once you get away from the port shopping mall.

PS: I am finding from the recently build cruise terminals at Costa Maya, etc, you have to walk through a maze of shopping to get in or out: no direct route.


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quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
For some reason it seems like most people west of the Mississippi want to cruise the Caribbean, but most people east of the Mississippi won't travel to the west coast for a cruise unless its to Alaska or Hawaii. Anything south of San Diego gets forgotten about.

The water in the Caribbean can be incredible. We have some clear water on the west coast but nothing like the Caribbean. As for Mexico, we enjoy it for the culture, colonial architecture and history.

Hawaii is a beautiful destination but the 10-hour flight from the east coast may make some people think twice about booking a cruise there. Now if I could hop on Air Force One to Hawaii, I would not hesitate!

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10 hours?...not really worth that long of a flight from the east coast....i'de rather go to europe, bermuda or even the azores if a direct flight is available there
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Agree that Alaska is an amazing cruise destination, and I had the opportunity to visit Hawaii many times courtesy of the US Navy. Mexico just doesn't hold the same interest for me right now. Maybe a few years down the road? And on something else other than HAL and Princess. I do hope RCI sends a Radiance-class back to the west coast after the first Sunshine-class comes out.

As for me traveling long distances by plane I think Jeff is right: I'd rather go to Europe than fly to Hawaii or Asia. But not for a cruise.


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