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posted 02-22-2012 11:14 AM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From Reuters


When Walter Henry Alderfer learned last month about the Costa Concordia shipwreck off Italy, it brought back bad memories.

In April 2007, he, his wife and his daughter were aboard the Sea Diamond cruise ship when it struck a reef off Greece and sank into the Aegean Sea. Screaming passengers fought over life preservers, Alderfer says, and his wife hurt her neck and later needed surgery.

Five years later, the family is still seeking redress - and its experience may be instructive for survivors of the Concordia disaster.

They turned down an offer of compensation by the owner - Cyprus-based Louis Cruises, a unit of Louis PLC - that included a free voyage. They filed a federal lawsuit in New York but settled for $2,500 - less than his wife's medical expenses and the family's lost belongings, he says - because the tickets required them to sue in Greece. An additional suit in Greece is still dragging on.

An attorney for Louis Cruises said many passengers were satisfied with the compensation offer, and Louis reached "fair and reasonable" settlements with some U.S. passengers who sought additional awards. She also said the evacuation was swift and orderly.

Most cruises proceed without mishap. But in the rare cases when passengers do suffer serious injury - at least 17 died in the wreck of the Costa Concordia on January 13 - they can face formidable obstacles in recovering significant damages, an examination by Reuters shows.

The cruise business - led by industry giant Carnival Corp. & PLC, whose Italian subsidiary owned and operated the doomed Costa Concordia - has put in place over the years a legal structure that ring-fences operators from big-money lawsuits.

The rules for seeking redress are spelled out in complex, multi-page ticket contracts that passengers may not receive until right before boarding. Victims are often required to file suits in remote jurisdictions. The wording has been the subject of decades of court battles.

Thomas Dickerson, a New York state judge who has written extensively on travel law, says the legal hurdles resulting from the industry's victories over the years give operators the upper hand in litigation and make the business highly profitable. The industry faces "fewer payouts because of all the roadblocks," he said.

Cruise industry officials say their contracts streamline the litigation process, prevent frivolous claims and lower cruise costs for passengers.

In the case of the Costa Concordia wreck, the ticket contract stated that "all claims, controversies, disputes, suits and matters of any kind whatsoever ... shall be instituted only in the courts of Genoa, Italy."

Many survivors are now discovering the challenges of the Italian court system.

Italian lawyers rarely accept cases on a contingency basis, so clients may have to pay them up front to take a case. And personal-injury cases can drag on for years, especially if there is a parallel criminal investigation. The Costa Concordia's captain is under investigation for allegedly abandoning ship. That probe must be completed before evidence will be made available to plaintiff attorneys in civil cases, said Alexander Guttieres, a Rome lawyer who has litigated major personal-injury cases.

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Those whose travel insurance policies include legal expenses cover would surely be in a reasonable position in relation to this? I wouldn't rely on a travel insurance policy that didn't have it, precisely because of the difficulties and risks that I'd face if I had to make a cross-border claim.
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It appears the family above did not have any Travel Insurance.

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posted 02-23-2012 02:37 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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In the case of the Costa Concordia wreck, the ticket contract stated that "all claims, controversies, disputes, suits and matters of any kind whatsoever ... shall be instituted only in the courts of Genoa, Italy."

Well, this is an Italian company. I know that it's owned by another, US-owned & registered corporation, but I'm guessing that the actual corporate registration of Costa Crociere is with the Italian authorities. It therefore doesn't seem unreasonable to me that litigation against that Italian entity should be required to happen in Italy.

If the contract required litigation to be instituted in, say, Scotland; or South Africa; that would be unreasonable.


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Originally posted by Tom Burke:
I know that it's owned by another, US-owned & registered corporation
Carnival Corporation is registered Panama, not the US. I'm not sure what the ownership structure of Costa is, though; it might be ultimately owned by Carnival plc, which is registered in England.

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Originally posted by dougnewman:
I'm not sure what the ownership structure of Costa is, though; it might be ultimately owned by Carnival plc, which is registered in England.
According to Wikipedia, the Panamanian Corporation and the UK plc jointly own all of the operating companies of the different brands in the Carnival group.

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