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Frosty 4
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posted 01-14-2011 10:06 AM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We have seen a ramp up of bad weather all over the world. Flooding in Australia and southeast Asia, Heavy snow fall in the US South East and East coast. These areas will have flood issues once the snow melts.
Global warming has been the cause with the temps rising a little over 1 degree on average over the planet.
Besides the terestrial fossil fuel burn(heating,auto usage etc.
I wonder what effect air travel has? One only has to look at the NET to see how many aircraft are in the air at any given time. (USA)--aircraft in flight.Thousands.
The exhaust from jet engines is hot plus the pollution from jet fuel. This heat goes from ground level up to 40,000 feet. The OAT(Outside air temperature) at these altitudes can be -60+ degrees F. But does the temp rise?
Maybe Ernst can comment on these possible effects.
Or anyone else???
Frosty 4

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LeBarryboat
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posted 01-14-2011 12:17 PM      Profile for LeBarryboat   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't want to come across as a "religious kook" however, here is something written 2,000 years ago regarding the future (our time) which I believe we are racing towards...and I think this will happen in our lifetime.

And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of heaven will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near." (Luke21:24-28)


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Frosty 4
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posted 01-14-2011 12:53 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
December 21st 2012 according to the Mayan calendar will herald the end of days.
My belief if anything is to happen then it will involve a polar shift. This will be rapid in scope with tidal waves , tornadic winds and massive earthquakes of the category 10 variety. Possibly the "Big ONE" on the West Coast which includes Mexico.
However things have been forecast before and nothing of note happens.
All we do is talk about Global Warming but not much is happening to stop it. IMHO.
F4

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posted 01-15-2011 10:10 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
All we do is talk about Global Warming but not much is happening to stop it.
There's quite a lot happening in some parts of the world, but much less happening in others.

Really serious oncerted action is only going to happen when (a) there is a consensus that global warming is happening; (b) there is a consensus that human activity is at least one of the major contributors to it; (c) there is a consensus that we can in fact do something to alter its course; and (d) we are actually prepared to make the sacrifices necessary to do that.

But at the moment, there are parts of the world where even (a) isn't yet generally accepted. Part of the problem is the difficulty that people seem to have in identifying and focusing on long-term trends (which are the important thing) rather than short-term random fluctuations (which are not, and which can be misleading).

But a bigger part of the problem is that many people perceive the necessary action to be an attack on their ways of life, rather than seeing changes to their ways of life as necessary to save life itself.


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posted 01-15-2011 10:13 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
I wonder what effect air travel has?
Air travel accounts for 2% of global emissions. And much of it is relatively unavoidable, in the sense that there aren't many realistic alternative modes of travel for very many journeys now taken by air.

In contrast, there are a lot of road transport emissions that are avoidable, because there are realistic alternatives to the journeys now being undertaken in the way that they are.


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Frosty 4
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posted 01-15-2011 10:57 AM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While in Bejiing a few years ago the air polution was really bad. The air had a yellow cast to it and the smell was one that reminded me of the smog conditions in the LA area in the late 50s.

There have been problems between the US and Canada with air polution being blown up into Canada from various sources in the US. Not sure if this has been corrected or not?

I do remember that China halted most manufacturing before the Olympics due to poor air quality.
Will electric cars help? You still have to charge the batteries which comes from either coal/oil powered electric power plants.
Solar and wind powered equipment helps but some don't like the farms of panels and windmills.
F4


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PamM
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posted 01-15-2011 11:22 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
Will electric cars help? You still have to charge the batteries which comes from either coal/oil powered electric power plants.

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lasuvidaboy
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The weather here in Southern California has been more or less normal. We had over 10 inches of rain in December and this weekend we are having a typical warm snap. Today it is crystal clear and nearly 80 degrees.
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LeBarryboat has the right scriptures.
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