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Italianliners
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posted 12-26-2006 09:08 AM      Profile for Italianliners   Email Italianliners   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello all!

I just came back from my 8 night Christma's Cruise and i have to say it was my worse cruises in more than 17 i already have done. I will make a complete review in a few days and will post here. The ship was very beautifull but i really don't know what happened with MSC, everything onbord really SU**S! I have made some movies (Costa Romantica departing from Rio, Costa Fortuna on front of "Corcovado" and the Grand Mistral at night) but i don't know yet how to upload. The pictures i will be posting in a few days too.

Italianliners

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Italianliners
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posted 12-27-2006 07:46 PM      Profile for Italianliners   Email Italianliners   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello

I put a readers revies of the MSC Sinfonia but i cannot find, if Malcom or Joe could give me a hand i would be thankful.

Italianliners

PS: I will post the pics soon, the videos i don't know how to upload...


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posted 12-28-2006 01:36 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's a the Sinfonia review.

Thanks for sharing your experience Italianliners.

Joe at TravelPage.com


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Waynaro
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posted 12-29-2006 01:32 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am surprised with your experience in terms of food and entertainment. I have never sailed with MSC, but I heard good things about their food.
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posted 12-29-2006 04:30 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry that you had a bad experience but thanks for the review.

We need both positive and negative reviews.


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Tom Burke
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posted 12-29-2006 04:51 PM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It ceretainly seems that MSC are having problems in successfully moving their product to places other Europe.
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posted 12-29-2006 05:25 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:
It ceretainly seems that MSC are having problems in successfully moving their product to places other Europe.

It’s interesting that Carnival (for example) realise that the whole world are not going to appreciate the ‘Fun Ship’ product , hence that’s why they have purchased all of those brands.

However RCI tailor their product for the different markets. I’ve cruise RCI in The Carib, in the Med and from the UK. I must say that each experience was very different and clearly adapted for the different clientele. For example, it the Med they pick up a lot of Italian and Spanish guests.

MSC may be on a steep learning curve?


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Italianliners
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posted 12-29-2006 06:05 PM      Profile for Italianliners   Email Italianliners   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[Originally posted by Waynaro:

quote:
I am surprised with your experience in terms of food and entertainment. I have never sailed with MSC, but I heard good things about their food.

For another cruiser maybe it would not be so bad because in my others 3 cruises in MSC (in South America too) the service and food were really different. I was disapointed because i entered in the ship expecting as it was in the previous years and then i saw that MSC had been a little bit lazy this season. I read what Malcom writed about his Thomsom cruise and it was the the opposite of my cruise. He was not expecting too much of the cruise but then he was surprised for the good servie and the food. I'm glad that he enjoyed his cruise!

Some people told me that i could not expect too much of a "Mass Market Cruise Line" so seeing by this point they are right. Next year i'm planing a Caribbean cruise for the first time and i'm trying to convince my dad to experience HAL or Celebrity. The right thing is that will be very diferent of my latest cruises on Costa and MSC.

Italianliners


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posted 12-30-2006 06:35 PM      Profile for goodclicks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am sorry to read that ItalianLiners had such a different experience to me. I was on Sinfonia's sister Armonia for her transatlantic crossing to Brazil. I will have to write a review for you but in the mean time:

I enjoyed the food, as did most but some complained bitterly. Picking fault, I had salmon, which was dry, and some very tough veal (which I should have sent back). Otherwise I can't complain except that I have developed a very expensive taste for truffle and truffle oil. The selection at the buffet and al fresco restaurants was impressive, always a roast, some very creative soups and salads and tasty pasta. The pizzas, when freshly served, are among the best I've had.
One very major complaint: the tea and coffee situation is not good. It is only available at breakfast and during afternoon tea. At other times the machines are drained and you are expected to pay at the bar for them.

Entertainment was very enjoyable and at time exceptional. There was a show practically every night and considering that on this voyage there were at least 6 languages to be catered for the entertainment team did a fantastic job. How could ventriloquism work under such conditions? It shouldn't, but it was hilarious. Contortionists, violinists, jugglers, magicians and comedians all helped pass many happy hours with only the Brazilian singer (obviously famous in Brazil) failing to entertain me. The animation team kept everyone going during the day effortlessly switching between the languages, always smiling and joking.

The service at first wasn't good, but it rapidly improved. Apparently this is due to ships in Brazilian waters being required to sail with at least 30% Brazilian staff. Hence it appeared the transatlantic crossing was being used for training. Being only two thirds full this was not too much of a problem and the extra staff led to exceptionally good service by the end of the voyage.

Armonia herself was alright. Having sailed on the Opera she wasn't anything like as stylish, looking in fact, quite ordinary. There was no wow factor (for me). She was reasonable well laid out and the pool deck was never over crowded but i certainly noticed the extra 400 passengers we took on in Salvador! Cabins were compact but perfectly formed, with the exception of those with fold down bunk beds. These were responsible for a few bruised temples. I am small and skinny, but even I was dancing with the shower curtain, larger people would be better using the entire bathroom as a wet-room.

Itinerary was near perfect for me. The ports were well intersperced with the sea-days and the 5 days in the middle, crossing the equator were ideal for relaxing in the sun.

Overall I had a fantastic time - in fact my best holiday ever. Much as I like seeing new places and trying new things I would repeat this experience like a shot.


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posted 01-09-2007 04:30 PM      Profile for goodclicks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here are a few pictures of Armonia. She was a nice enough ship and many people commented on how beautiful she was, but I must say, I found her lacking any "wow" factor and not to my taste. It didn't impact on my enjoyment of the cruise however.

link to Armonia pictures

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gaz hants
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posted 01-09-2007 04:36 PM      Profile for gaz hants   Email gaz hants   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
goodclicks
i especially like the one of the stern fantail, but why is everyone looking at you taking a picture of them?

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Tom Burke
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posted 01-10-2007 05:48 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I also like the stern arrangements on Armonia/Sinfonia. A number of people have said that the more enclosed arrangement on Lirica & Opera looks better, and I suppose it does. However the fantail on the first two is very pleasant and open if you're actually on one of them.
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posted 01-10-2007 07:49 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lovely photos goodclicks, thanks Sinfonia & Armonia are not built to the same standard as Opera & Lirica, but that doesn't detract from the overall cruise experience, imo anyway.

I am one of those people Tom I detested the looks of the sterns of the Festival sisters and have said so many times. After having sailed Lirica, where the 'rounded bulkheads' make things look better, I realised what wonderful areas they are from a passenger's point of view. Then after Armonia, without the side views blocked, I realised they are even better that way, and loved having more or less my own private balcony out there with views in 3 directions.

I still think from afar they look like they have had a shunt up the rear end, but onboard they are better than traditional fantails.

Pam


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 01-10-2007 07:56 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
I still think from afar they look like they have had a shunt up the rear end, but onboard they are better than traditional fantails.

It's interesting how important the external appearance of a ship is to us ship-nuts, yet it has no real bearing on the cruise experience - apart from having to look at the ship during embarkation, ports of call (tendering) and disembarkation.

I suppose that why there are so many ugly ships built these days, it really is NOT important to the cruising public.

I would still have difficulty booking a cruise on a ship that I thought was ugly, in the same way I did not date or Marry an ugly woman!


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posted 01-10-2007 03:59 PM      Profile for goodclicks     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
gaz hants
quote:
goodclicks
i especially like the one of the stern fantail, but why is everyone looking at you taking a picture of them?

Attractive as I am (!!!) I think it was the view of Salvador they were looking at!

Having sailed Opera with the enclosed tail and Armonia with the open fan tail, I can see the benefits of both. Opera's balcony was more sheltered and deeper - better for lying on the sunbed. Armonia's balconies couldn't hold many sunbeds but gave far better views.

Without question Opera & Lirica are the better looking of the quartet. Just a few strokes of the designer's pen made all the difference.

If you have an inside cabin, being at the back of these ships is wonderful. On Opera I was only one cabin away from the stern - it was like having my own massive balcony. I enjoyed it so much I requested the stern again for my Armonia trip but MSC couldn't have put me much further forward!


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