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bulbousbow
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posted 07-15-2004 05:48 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is QM2 at Geiranger, Norway, July 15, 2004.

The webcam picture shows QM2 swinging around
with Marco Polo in the background.

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PamM
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posted 07-15-2004 06:06 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Your pic is better than mine caught her 5 mins earlier. Nice view.
Pam

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bulbousbow
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posted 07-15-2004 07:48 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's another one, but this time there's another ship positioning itself at the stern of QM2. Since it's not the Russian ice-breaker Akademik Sergey Vavilov, is it one of the Norwegian coastal vessels?

Pam, I refreshed every few minutes, not sure why you didn't get the same one. Seeing this image I wish I could be there.

Cheers


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posted 07-15-2004 07:51 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Poor old MC!
I thought it was a tender to QM2!
The new huge Cunarder has found a perfect setting..

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bulbousbow
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posted 07-15-2004 08:02 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is that vessel pointing the other way, in fact minutes before it made its way out of the fjord.

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PamM
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posted 07-15-2004 08:27 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's Finnmarken I think. During the summer months the NCV vessels just sail up and back. There will be one there every day around the saem time. [I didn't get to look in before she'd turned which is why I didn't catch it].
Pam

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Piet
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posted 07-15-2004 09:13 AM      Profile for Piet        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, it's FINNMARKEN, see Where are the ships now? on the site of Hurtigruten.

See also topic QM 2 heading North in the Ocean Liners and Classic Cruise Ships Forum.

[ 07-15-2004: Message edited by: Piet ]


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NorwayViking
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posted 07-15-2004 03:52 PM      Profile for NorwayViking   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was there!

I`m back at the norwegian west coast to watch the QM2...
We went to Geiranger today in our 24-foot boat. A beautiful day, even if
it was raining sometimes.

A few pictures:


View from our balcony at 6:15 this morning:


The QM2 arrives Geiranger:

QM2 in Geiranger:

The QM2 & the Marco Polo:

QM2 pass Stranda at 8 pm on its way to Ålesund:

speeding up...


I also made a great recording of the QM2`s whistle, mpeg file will follow soon!

Arne

[ 07-15-2004: Message edited by: NorwayViking ]


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PamM
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posted 07-15-2004 04:07 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Arne they are beautiful. Wish I could have been there too. That 2nd photo is wonderful.
It's amazing how small MP is there.
Pam

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Onno
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posted 07-15-2004 04:57 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nice pictures Arne (as always)

Look at the bow wave that QM2 is generating, she must be in a hurry! Marco Polo looks as nice as ever, great to see the old ships with a sheer.

Seeing the ships doing their nautical dance in Geiranger always give me a smile.

Onno


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Cambodge
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posted 07-15-2004 09:02 PM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am surprised to observe that QM2 is making such a wake on departure. It is poor nautical form to do so, whether you are a small powerboat or the world's largest ocean liner.

In such restricted waters, moving 150KT of water around briskly can damage piers, flood shore areas and properties and is generally not considered neighborly.

The first photo posted shows the magnitude of such a wake..remember it is taken from some distance away.

I would be glad to send copies of the St. Michaels "No Wake" and "Restricted Area: 5 knots max speed" signs to Gerainger so that they can get duplicates made up....in polished birch, of course.

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posted 07-15-2004 09:36 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cambodge:

In such restricted waters, moving 150KT of water around briskly can damage piers, flood shore areas and properties and is generally not considered neighborly...

In most situations I would agree with you, but I did a little research and found a picture taken from the other side of the fjord by a chap named Enra. I think this explains the reason for the speed....

Joe at TravelPage.com


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Caroline Parkhurst
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posted 07-15-2004 10:31 PM      Profile for Caroline Parkhurst   Email Caroline Parkhurst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wonderful photos! Thank you.

Caroline


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NorwayViking
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posted 07-16-2004 02:06 AM      Profile for NorwayViking   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:

In most situations I would agree with you, but I did a little research and found a picture taken from the other side of the fjord by a chap named Enra. I think this explains the reason for the speed....


Joe at TravelPage.com


lol

The first picture and the last three pictures are from My hometown Stranda, where My parents still live.

This place is about 1,5 hrs from Geiranger, and the ships usually makes more speed in that area. The fjord is wider, and there are not much piers etc.

However, the ships use to slow the speed a few minutes right outside this town (due to our harbor).

The first and the last of My QM2 pictures is when she turns up speed after passing Stranda.

[ 07-16-2004: Message edited by: NorwayViking ]


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posted 07-16-2004 04:57 AM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello
nice pictures, especially the second one - there is a sense of playfulness in it, I think.

J


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Mr_Cunard
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posted 07-17-2004 02:25 AM      Profile for Mr_Cunard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is that the Cruise that Chris Cunard is on?> It looks and amazing trip and some great views!! I wish i was there

cheers


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Onno
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posted 07-17-2004 06:50 AM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, that is Chris water-skiing in Joe’s picture!
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RobHolland
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posted 07-17-2004 07:43 AM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Great photoshopping Joe! You made my day.

I am very lucky I have time to go to QM2 in Rotterdam, coming Wednesday. Unfortunately I'm unable to see her arrive, but I will make it to be at her depart. I'm going with a classmate who has never seen a cruise ship before (sure he will be impressed!).

Hopefully I will meet some CT'ers, but Onno & Ben you are going to trace her around that time with the party boat so possibly we won't see eachother. But, who knows! I will wave when I see you 'cruising' by

I'm sure loads of photos will be posted here the same day, I will do so too.


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Piet
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posted 07-18-2004 06:46 AM      Profile for Piet        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Norwegian tabloid VG reveals on 18 July a "security scandal" during QM2's stay in Geiranger: two boys climbed the bulb of the ship and of course somebody photographed it and send it to a newspaper:


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posted 07-18-2004 07:21 AM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What a bunch of loony’s!!! How on earth would they get so close without anyone (from port security or crew on the QM2) noticing the guys going to the bow. Unfortunately guys like these are responsible for the cruise world security to grow tighter and tighter and as a result spoiling the fun and accessibility for people simply trying to photograph a ship without any hostile intensions. I often wonder when in Amsterdam, the quay side and terminal are systematically cut off to the public while from the water any lunatic can come along side and even touch the hull of the ships (think how simple it is for a real terrorist to come alongside a ships and plant something on it!) I just hate it that these sort of stunts cause security to get off track and instead of securing real threads they are busy preventing normal people from enjoying the ships.

You should see it when the Radisson Diamond is Amsterdam, it seems to be a thrill if you go underneath the ship with a little motor boot and eventhough port security is yelling to these people to go away they go underneath the ship anyway, which are frustrating the security who in turn will be even more alert when someone with good intensions comes along to see the ship.

It reminded me of the guy who jumped from a bridge on the Veendam (or other HAL ship), nice for those persons that they get a kick out of it, but terrible for on security and trust in general.

I’m sure that this QM2 bulbous bow incident will be reported to each port she will visit from now on and security will be ordered to be more strict with people being in close distance of the ship.

Onno

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posted 07-18-2004 07:35 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by joe at travelpage:

In most situations I would agree with you, but I did a little research and found a picture taken from the other side of the fjord by a chap named Enra. I think this explains the reason for the speed....

Joe at TravelPage.com


ssssssssssssst Joe thats me water skying alongside QM2 nice time doing so. It was a great experians after years skying behind speedboats. Now attached to the bow i was impressed by the ship and speed at that time. Sad whene they cut the line.


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PamM
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Not only Loony, but extremely foolhardy not considering the dangers.
But can anyone verify the photo's legitimate? We've seen how easy it is to 'doctor' things. There are so many unanswered questions.. maybe in the Norwegian text, but an auto translator makes no sense of it all.

How did they get there? No boat visible, can't tell if they look wet, why would they swim fully clothed? Isn't it hard to climb onto the bulb? slippery?

How come no-one saw them? Numerous tenders and other vessels sailing back and forth. Someone would have seen them, on deck or otherwise.

Why is this the only photo? If this did happen, I would have thought many photos would have appeared of the incident by now? I am skeptical at present.

Pam


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quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Not only Loony, but extremely foolhardy not considering the dangers.
But can anyone verify the photo's legitimate? We've seen how easy it is to 'doctor' things. There are so many unanswered questions.. maybe in the Norwegian text, but an auto translator makes no sense of it all.

How did they get there? No boat visible, can't tell if they look wet, why would they swim fully clothed? Isn't it hard to climb onto the bulb? slippery?

How come no-one saw them? Numerous tenders and other vessels sailing back and forth. Someone would have seen them, on deck or otherwise.

Why is this the only photo? If this did happen, I would have thought many photos would have appeared of the incident by now? I am skeptical at present.

Pam


In the norwegian newspaper it says that the security personell on the QM2 confirm what happened:

"Sikkerhetsansvarlig om bord på gigantskipet ville ikke snakke direkte med VG i går. Men via Havnevesenet ga sikkerhetssjefen en kort uttalelse:

- Vi er klar over at de var der, og ba dem forlate bulben for deres egen sikkerhets skyld. Utover det har vi ingen kommentar, sier han."


In english:

"The secutity responsible on board the QM2 did not want to speak to the newspaper VG about this, but he makes a short announcement thru the Port Authorities:

-We know they where there, and asked them to leave the bulb for they own safety. We have no further comments about this"

VG also tell us that the boys where about 10-13 years old, and the crew at bridge of the "Marco Polo" radioed the QM2 to tell about the children playing on the bulb.


Arne

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posted 07-18-2004 09:16 AM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Onno:
[QB] What a bunch of loony’s!!! How on earth would they get so close without anyone (from port security or crew on the QM2) noticing the guys going to the bow. Unfortunately guys like these are responsible for the cruise world security to grow tighter and tighter and as a result spoiling the fun and accessibility for people simply trying to photograph a ship without any hostile intensions.

Next week during the Tall Ships race in Antwerp, there will be a Crystal ship at the cruisterminal and the very pleasant Zuiderterras, the promenade alongside the hull of the ships above the ships, will be closed of to the general public "because of safety reasons...". A great pity and loss I think.

J


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According to the text, it was the Marco Polo who contacted the QM2 and told them about the boys. An eyewitness who wanted to be anonymous said the two boys must have been aged between 10 - 13 years old. The security manager onboard QM2 gave this comment, via the Port Management in Bergen: "We were aware of the children, and told them to leave the bulb for their own security. I have no further comments."
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