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Waynaro
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posted 04-13-2003 06:43 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had been wondering what is actually the hull color on HAL's ships? There had been pictures where it shows black and others that show the dark blue.
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cruiseny
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posted 04-13-2003 06:55 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It was certainly black at one time, but that ended in the 1950s. At that time they changed over to dove (light) gray hulls... Starting out with the newly-built RYNDAM (1951) their new passenger ships had gray hulls, but older ships changed over later, for instance NIEUW AMSTERDAM (1938) got the gray hull in 1957.

The company switched in the early 1970s (possibly 1971 - not sure the exact year) to the dark blue hulls that they still have today.

So if you're looking at a ship that entered service with HAL in the 1950s or later, and it looks black, it's not, it's just the very dark blue that they have been using for the past 30 years or so.

The color is very dark, and in many lighting conditions it appears black... In some photographs I have seen it looks like a very bright blue - a well-used HAL advertising photo of NOORDAM in the Caribbean comes to mind - but I have a feeling those were taken with a filter as in person, you can tell it is blue, but sometimes you might have to look twice as it is really, really dark.


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posted 04-13-2003 07:10 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
cruiseny, below is a picture released by HAl. Looks black.....

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posted 04-13-2003 07:21 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It may look black... But it's not black.
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sympatico
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posted 04-13-2003 08:12 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's definitely dark blue and not black.
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posted 04-13-2003 08:16 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I second that it is dark bleu which can appear black. (especially on the shadow side)

Onno


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Waynaro
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posted 04-13-2003 08:21 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for all the replies. This matter really confused me, but not anymore!!!
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posted 04-13-2003 08:36 PM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dose anyone use real black anymore ? Seems everyone uses dark blue... Is there a reason why this is so ?
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posted 04-13-2003 08:49 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ðraikar:
Dose anyone use real black anymore ?

Hmm... Cunard uses Federal Gray, which is very, very, very dark gray - I find it absolutely indistinguisable from black. It's the same color they've used since who knows when... For all I know BRITANNIA could have been painted with it .

QE2 was dark blue from 1994-1999 though. I didn't like it and am glad that they have returned to the "normal" hull color.

I can't think of anyone else who uses black any longer (for passenger ships). Apart from QE2, the last black hulls were probably FRANCE, STEFAN BATORY, and maybe some Soviet ships.


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posted 04-13-2003 09:14 PM      Profile for Commodore     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do you have pictures of the QE2 in blue? I have trouble thinking it up in my head.
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posted 04-13-2003 09:19 PM      Profile for Commodore     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Origanally Posted by cruiseny:I can't think of anyone else who uses black any longer (for passenger ships). Apart from QE2, the last black hulls were probably FRANCE, STEFAN BATORY, and maybe some Soviet ships.

Doesn't Disney Cruise Lines use black hulls???????


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posted 04-13-2003 10:25 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does the R-ships have a dark blue or black?
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posted 04-13-2003 11:32 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Commodore:
Doesn't Disney Cruise Lines use black hulls???????

I'm not sure (believe it or not I've never seen one in person) but you may well be right. I would think, from photos I've seen, that they do.


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posted 04-13-2003 11:33 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Keitaro:
Does the R-ships have a dark blue or black?

Dark blue.


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posted 04-14-2003 02:32 AM      Profile for Commodore     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well I was on the Disney Wonder and I may be decieved but it's hull was very much a black. It could be one of those indistinguisable from black but I just have a feeling it's not.
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posted 04-15-2003 04:22 PM      Profile for BTF        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I understood from a HAL official I spoke to once that HAL has a special dark blue paint shade that they use for their hulls and that it is ordered special from International Marine Paints.
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posted 04-20-2003 08:42 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From Travel Channel's Cruise Week, they interviewed someone from the MAGIC and WONDER's design team, and they said the twins have a black hull.
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