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oneredwon
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posted 10-23-2001 01:54 AM      Profile for oneredwon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What do people wear on the formal nights? I've been told by Celebrity Cruises that we have 2 formal nights. They say I have to wear a floor length black formal dress. We'll be on the Infinity. Do they really stick to that rule or do women also wear short dresses and colors other than black?
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sympatico
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posted 10-23-2001 07:40 AM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You certainly can wear a short dress in any colour. I have a calf length pink dress, & a blue/black/white short dress which I have worn many times on formal nights.
I also have a long chiffon skirt, with a shell & beaded jacket and also a couple of dressy tops to go with the skirts.
You don't have to black and it doesn't have to be floor lenghth.
Just enjoy yourself. You will see all kinds of "dress" on formal nights.

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oneredwon
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posted 10-23-2001 10:27 AM      Profile for oneredwon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Sympatico. I appreciate the help.
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Meldrew of the Seas
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posted 09-24-2005 01:06 PM      Profile for Meldrew of the Seas   Email Meldrew of the Seas   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why not travel with Carnival?

Casual Dress: Jeans and T shirt

Smart Dress: Jeans and a clean T shirt

Formal Dress: Black Jeans and T shirt

And I'm not joking either!


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Deck 9 001
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posted 09-24-2005 09:29 PM      Profile for Deck 9 001     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You forgot these!

Regards,

Mike--Heading to Hong Kong tomorrow


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Green
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posted 09-24-2005 11:21 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The way we were! Just noticed
oneredwon's posting date - 10/23/2001

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Meldrew of the Seas
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posted 09-25-2005 08:54 AM      Profile for Meldrew of the Seas   Email Meldrew of the Seas   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Deck 9 001:
You forgot these!

Quite right too! At least you showed a plain black one for formal wear!


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Cambodge
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posted 09-25-2005 11:30 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As I pointed out several years ago, on formal nights, the bills (visors) of the caps should face forward!

This also permits a tasteful display of either your favorite obscenity, or your endorsement of the sponsorship by a selected manufacturer of powered agricultural equipment.


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Meldrew of the Seas
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posted 09-28-2005 12:10 PM      Profile for Meldrew of the Seas   Email Meldrew of the Seas   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
P & O are now even selling a range of baseball caps..............

Titles include "Captain", "Crew" and "First Mate"

Is the beginning of another Carnival cost cutting exercise: dressing the ship's officers in jeans and polo shirts?


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Maasdam
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posted 09-29-2005 06:55 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Meldrew of the Seas:
P & O are now even selling a range of baseball caps..............

Titles include "Captain", "Crew" and "First Mate"

Is the beginning of another Carnival cost cutting exercise: dressing the ship's officers in jeans and polo shirts?


HAL too the text DAM SHIPS.

Greetings Ben.


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Globaliser
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posted 09-30-2005 09:14 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:
HAL too the text DAM SHIPS.
I spent years trying all sorts of nefarious ways to get my hands on a baseball cap that said "Dam ships" (though I drew the line at sleeping with crew ).

Now you can just buy the dam things - takes all the fun out of it!


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Tom Burke
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posted 12-22-2005 10:04 AM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a page on the NCL site that says that:

"...NCL/ NCLA does not allow any blue jeans, t-shirts, shorts, cut-offs, tank tops, bare feet, etc. in any of our fine dining restaurants for dinner, including all main restaurants, alternative restaurants, and cover charge venues.

....

Below are a few exceptions to the dining room dress code:

Blue Jeans will be allowed in all dining rooms on all Houston departures, due to the Texas culture."

Here's the URL:
http://www.ncl.com/more/fp_mi_w2n.htm#dress


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Brian_O
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posted 12-22-2005 04:01 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:

Blue Jeans will be allowed in all dining rooms on all Houston departures, due to the Texas culture."


Texas culture? Does that mean you can carry a gun on cruises out of Texas as well?

Brian


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 12-22-2005 04:26 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Brian_O:

Texas culture? Does that mean you can carry a gun on cruises out of Texas as well?

Brian


'Ya'll better smile when you gonna ask that question'


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Brian_O
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posted 12-22-2005 11:52 PM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

'Ya'll better smile when you gonna ask that question'


Actually it's not just Texas culture. Jeans are formal attire throughout the American South West.*

Brian

* The "West" in the term "American South West " refers to everything west of the Mississippi. Despite being dead centre east-west wise, all of Texas is nevertheless regarded as being part of the Southwest.

[ 12-22-2005: Message edited by: Brian_O ]


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dmwnc1
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posted 12-23-2005 12:34 AM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Meldrew of the Seas:
Why not travel with Carnival?

Casual Dress: Jeans and T shirt
Smart Dress: Jeans and a clean T shirt
Formal Dress: Black Jeans and T shirt

And I'm not joking either!


NO you arent kidding are you! Last time I cruised Carnival formal night was a JOKE. Why even bother implementing a dress code (or should I say dress suggestion) as listed on the daily shipboard newsletter if no one is even going to bother to adhere to it? Just let them all wear what they want!

When I cruised formal night to me, regardless of cruise line, meant a black tux and bow tie, cummerbund or vest. There is a difference between

FORMAL
SEMI-FORMAL
SMART CASUAL
CASUAL.

I wish that cruise lines enforced their dress policies more often. Have a dress policy, or dont. A mere suggestion is easily brushed off to the side and the 'I'll wear what I want to wear' attitude surfaces. I have seen Princess turn guests away at the dining room doors for wearing 'wife-beater t-shirts' on dress nights. Imagine thinking you were going to eat in a fine dining establishment wearing a 'wife-beater' t-shirt? Lots of land-based upscale fine dining establishments have enforcable dress codes. You dont eat if you arent wearing a suit and tie!

It would infuriate me to no end as a TA when other TA's would tell clients "You dont have to dress up on formal night if you dont want to. Just wear something nice..." Well, your idea of nice is not going to be the same as others (hence dress blue jeans, or at best Dockers, and a clean pressed t-shirt on Carnival Formal night...REALLY!).

I never encouraged clients to 'dress down'. Even the brochures and websites have a list of what clothes fall under what category of dress. A dress policy and a dress code should be enforced.

If you want to 'dress down' on formal nights, eat in the Lido.

[ 12-23-2005: Message edited by: dmwnc1 ]


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desirod7
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posted 01-01-2006 10:54 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

image from NYTimes

Familiar Cunard sight. Best way to handle formal wear is to be creative and make it a fun costume party. The 'clothing police' are not as draconian as they sound. Simply don't look like a slob.


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Cambodge
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posted 01-09-2006 03:07 PM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Texas culture?

An oxymoron if ever I heard one!!

The examples posted prove my point.


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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 03-03-2006 09:26 AM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:

When I cruised formal night to me, regardless
of cruise line, meant a black tux and bow tie, cummerbund or vest. There is a difference between

FORMAL
SEMI-FORMAL
SMART CASUAL
CASUAL.

I wish that cruise lines enforced their dress policies more often. Have a dress policy, or dont. A mere suggestion is easily brushed off to the side and the 'I'll wear what I want to wear' attitude surfaces. I have seen Princess turn guests away at the dining room doors for wearing 'wife-beater t-shirts' on dress nights. Imagine thinking you were going to eat in a fine dining establishment wearing a 'wife-beater' t-shirt? Lots of land-based upscale fine dining establishments have enforcable dress codes. You dont eat if you arent wearing a suit and tie!

It would infuriate me to no end as a TA when other TA's would tell clients "You dont have to dress up on formal night if you dont want to. Just wear something nice..." Well, your idea of nice is not going to be the same as others (hence dress blue jeans, or at best Dockers, and a clean pressed t-shirt on Carnival Formal night...REALLY!).

[ 12-23-2005: Message edited by: dmwnc1 ]


If you are going into a formal venue on a ship, formal dress should be required without question.
People have become so lazy that they can;t even get dressed up to go to dinner a few times.

[ 03-20-2006: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]


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Frosty 4
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posted 03-17-2006 04:11 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Usually no pant suits for ladies-nice dress or gown,tux or suit for men. If you don't want to dress up, go to the buffet,altenative dining, or get room service for dinner. Your choice. After dinner I change out of my suit before going to the theater for the show.
Frosty 4

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 03-18-2006 12:11 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
Usually no pant suits for ladies-nice dress or gown,tux or suit for men. If you don't want to dress up, go to the buffet,altenative dining, or get room service for dinner. Your choice. After dinner I change out of my suit before going to the theater for the show.
Frosty 4

No offense but I never understood that. If I put the darn Tux or suit on-I leave it on for the evening. I may loosen the tie (or remove it for the disco). I always buy comfortable suits and my tux is actually quite comfortable as well so I leave it on.


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Frosty 4
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posted 03-18-2006 12:28 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess my top hat,cape, and cane don't fit the theater scene. Just joking!!
F$

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sympatico
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posted 03-18-2006 09:08 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
Usually no pant suits for ladies-nice dress or gown,tux or suit for men. If you don't want to dress up, go to the buffet,altenative dining, or get room service for dinner. Your choice. After dinner I change out of my suit before going to the theater for the show.
Frosty 4


Have to disagree with you there Frosty. I have a lovely silk pant outfit..........pants & shell in royal blue, jacket is striped, royal blue, emerald green and white. I have worn this outfit on formal nights and also when I had dinner with the Captain. On my cruise in a couple of weeks, we had 3 formal nights, so I will be wearing this outfit on the second night.


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Frosty 4
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posted 03-20-2006 02:43 PM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Casual: Sport shirts and slacks for men, sundresses or pants for women
Smart Casual: Jackets and ties for men, dresses or pantsuits for women
Formal: Suits and ties or tuxedos for men, cocktail dresses for women

3 to 4-night cruises include one formal night and two or three casual

Right off the RCL Web site.
F4


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posted 05-04-2007 08:48 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From - The Book of Good Manners ,Social Mentor Publications 1922 New
York, NY
quote:

Morning Dress - Morning attire consists of a dark frock coat, with vest and light trousers. This can be worn at any entertainment occuring in the daytime as weddings, luncheons, receptions of all kinds, matinees. Anything worn is admissible in morning dress, a business suit, cutaway, sack suit, hats, caps and undressed kid gloves of a dark color.
At out-of-town resorts, golf, wheeling, and yachting costumes suitable for outdoor sport may be worn in the morning. It is considered the correct thing for a man to tie his own tie instead of buying them ready made.

Afternoon Dress - Afternoon dress consits of a double-breasted frock coat of dark material and waistcoat, either single or double breasted,
of same or of some fancy material of late design. The trousers should be of light color, avoiding of course extremes in patterns.
White or delicate color linen shirts should be worn, patent leather shoes, silk hat and undressed kid gloves of dark color Afternoon dress is worn at weddings, afternoon tes, receptions, garden
parties, luncheons, church funerals and at all afternoon fuctions.

Evening Dress - Evening dress should be worn on all formal occasions, consisting of swallow-tail coat of black material, made in the prevailing fashion, with waistcoat and trouser of the same material:
or a white vest may be worn.

The linen must be white. Studs or shirt buttons may be worn according to fashion. The collar should be high, and the cravat white. Low patent leather shoes and white kid gloves complete the attire.
Evening dress should be worn at all formal functions after six o'clock - as, balls, dinners, suppers, receptions, formal stag parties,
theatre, opera and fashionable evening calls where women are present.

A Tuxedo should never be worn where women are present

Tuxedo - The tuxedo coat and waistcoat are worn at all informal affairs when no women are present such as small theatre parties (when not occupying a box), bowling and card parties and the like
it may be worn on the street in the evening with a low hat. A black tie should always be worn and never under any circumstances a white one.



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