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When I first started drawing, my scales and designs were way off, but by reading here on CT and observing current ship design, I learned how to better porportionate my designs.
[ 02-04-2007: Message edited by: Cunard Fan ]
quote:Originally posted by captain_brandon129:This summer from May 6th to July 8th, I will be a deck cadet onboard the Pride of Aloha sailing around Hawaii on 7 day cruises.
Congratulations.
I am looking forward to read your frequent, extensive reports and see the myriads of pictures you will take.
Thanks in advanve.
quote:Originally posted by Cunard Fan:Waynaro what kind of ships do you want to design? Cruise Ships or someother kind of ship. Do you want to design for a certain company?
quote:Originally posted by Waynaro:I prefer to design cruise ships/passenger ships. I personally think there is more detailing than say cargo ships.
Me too. I love drawing up cruise ship designs. I would post them but I can't figure out how to. Does anyone know how?
quote:Originally posted by Cunard Fan:I want to learn how to do more profesional designs. Right now mine our just drawings of what I want my ships to look like. I also do a little bit of floor planing. Have you ever posted any of your designs?[ 02-04-2007: Message edited by: Cunard Fan ]
Look into taking classes at Art Center College of Design-one of the best in the World and right in Pasadena.
I've been surrounded by cruise ships since I was a little kid, every weekend I go see them, I live less than 2 miles away from Carnival's corporate offices and NCL's, they are so near yet so far to reach.
I am studying architecture, I am focusing more on ship design, every project I do has the theme of ships in them, my professor encourages me to do that. Everyday I come up with new ideas and designs, my classroom notebooks are filled with little sketches and ideas, I have more of them than classroom notes. Lately I have also been interested in designing refits for older ships.
If you wan't to design ships go for it, be persistent, I have gone to RCI's offices a couple times but I can't get passed the security officers, the design and designers office are CLASSIFIED and TOP SECRET as well as in Carnival. I have called and get no responses. But as soon as I turn 20, I'll go apply for a job over there (five months away).
I'll post some pictures up of some of my designs. Most are for RCI but I have done for many other lines, and I have also created imaginary lines since I was a little kid, Malibu Cruise Lines, MAERSK Cruise Lines (shipping company venturing into cruising), Virgin Lines, and the newest one W Ships (part of W hotels).
I still have a lot to learn about cruise ships and the industry, I learn a lot with Cruise Talk and by reading books and just imagination to design cruise ships.
I only have these two pictures now since I'm at work, I'll try to take pictures and scan some more soon.
This one is a sketch of how I think Genesis will look. I think I posted this one already.
This is a post-panamax ship for RCI I designed a couple years ago, I made plans, designs and then a model to see the form it took.
That is a really cool model Carlos. I have tried several times to make models of my designs but I have never been successful at it. Mostly I just draw my ships.
I know exactly what you mean. I used to have teachers get mad at me over all my ship drawings on my work. I litterally have hundreds of pages of ship drawings and sketches.
Here is a link to some pictures of my sketches. Sorry they are sloppy sketches.
quote:Originally posted by Cunard Fan:[...]They are just really quick sketches
But very nice ones.
Models are really difficult to build, but with time you'll get the hang of it, try it. Right now I'm trying to build a second model of a much larger ship, but I just can't figure out the aft part. I build interlocking pieces and put them together, no glue needed. Here are some pictures of the process for a small 15inch model I never got to finish, if I don't like something, I leave it and start over, I like perfection. The following one has one of the pieces taken off:The next two pictures are of the new 35 inch model I'm building, these are the first steps:And this is the troublemaker aft section:
Thats cool Carlos. I have never tried to make one that way. I have always just tried with clay.
What are you using?
quote:Originally posted by Cunard Fan:Thank you all. Thats cool Carlos. I have never tried to make one that way. I have always just tried with clay.What are you using?
Thanks.
The material I use is 1/16 inch thick mat board, It's easy to cut with an exacto blade and easy to draw on. I wanted to use basswood but they don't have pieces that big, plus it'll be way too expensive, 40"x30" the size of the mat boards.
I wanted to create a model that looked like the "maritime replicas" models but of my own designs, but they make the hulls and pieces with a computer and special molding machines. Then I got this idea of making a model with interlocking pieces, kind of like the basswood dinosaur models, so I started cutting and designing and that's what came out. I make an elevation, then the floor plans and then I cut them and put them together, I also make vertical pieces to hold them together.
This is an elevation with details of the large grey model in one of the pictures, it gives a hint of how the ship would look:These are floor plans of a stern pool for the new model. One of my favorite parts is designing the pools, they can get very elavorate. I also use overlays to see how a deck looks above the other, I draw those in vellum paper:One of my Carnival designs:
quote:Originally posted by Carlos Fernandez:[...]I wanted to create a model that looked like the "maritime replicas" models but of my own designs, but they make the hulls and pieces with a computer and special molding machines. [...]
You can do it without that too - it takes some time - and some skill (one can learn that) - but it is possible.
Some of the "maritime replicas" models are very nice - but some underwhelmed me. Too many details- maybe not well executed are not good - it is often better to e.g. omit the railing on a small model instead of ruining it with something that looks cheap.
Reducing it to the essence is finally what makes the art of model building.
If you are lazy (like me) and if it is not important for you that you built all of the model on your own (I do not care - I just want to have the model) you can have some parts made by professionals. There are companies that accept your CAD files and cut parts with laser plotters out of sheets (wood, metal etc. - (comes handy with passengers ships having many windows) - you can get three dimensional parts from rapid prototyping machines (send them either your digital model - or even an original) - and - last but not least I recommend to actually check the inventory of some model building companies. They HAVE the one or the other useful part in their inventory. (e.g. rafts, deckchairs etc.)This way a very high quality model is within reach also for a modestly talented person - so it should definitely be easy for you guys.
I never thought of making models like that. I usually will just draw my ships.
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