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posted 06-13-2012 08:19 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Today I received a original Queen Mary life jacket and I am trying to learn more about it.

One of the first things I noticed was that on the back of the jacket it is stamped with the word "VICTORY" in large letters. Does anyone have any idea what this might be? My first though was, of course, that it had something to do with WW2...but after a second of thinking about it, I couldn't see why they would stamp life jackets with war propaganda. Also what I think must be inspection stamps have the years 1958 and 1959 on them.

The only other thing I can think of is "VICTORY" must be the manufacturer. But at the same time I can't find anything on any such company. Does anyone know?

There are a couple of other stamps on the jackets shoulders that read..

"
M (image of a crown) T
1912 1959
J.A.H.
Liverpool
"

and

"
M (image of a crown) T

1912 1958
H.W.D.S
Liverpool
"

There is also one that is just a "P" in a circle. I assume that these are inspection stamps???

Any help would be very appreciated!


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posted 06-14-2012 01:39 AM      Profile for Michael534   Email Michael534   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not that this will help much, but you had my curiousity going.

I have seen these jackets before with "Victory" on the back. I did a little research and found a few more and they all seem to believe, as I do, that the "Victory" refers to WW2.
The word Victory was printed everywhere during the war. Posters, banners, buttons, etc. It was a moral booster. There was VE and VJ day. So, during war time, and this is only my thinking, they probably printed the word "victory" on the backs of the jackets so the troop standing behind you would see it. Think about how many men saw the word "Victory" in front of them while packed on the Mary's deck. I could be totally off base here, but it makes sense to me. Marketing!

Yes, the dates are inspection stamps.
As for the 1912, could this have anything to do with safety laws enacted after Titanic sank?

I will scour pics and see if I can find someone wearing one in a WW2 era photo.

Thanks for something to do on a boring night!

Michael


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posted 06-15-2012 03:56 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess that would have to be a possibility. But if that is the case then why are there no earlier inspection stamps? Only in 1958 and 1959?
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posted 06-18-2012 04:26 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So no one else has any other ideas?
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posted 06-18-2012 06:15 PM      Profile for KenC   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunard Fan:
So no one else has any other ideas?

The only thing I can help with is that 'M (image of a crown) T' would stand for The Ministry of Transport - the name of the government department in 1959 which would have had responsibility for inspecting life jackets.

Ken


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posted 06-18-2012 06:22 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Perhaps there were no specific regulations with regard to life jacket inspections prior to 1958? Either with inspections themselves or with the stamping of detail to say one had been carried out.

Pam


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