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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 08-06-2010 03:44 PM

Which of the three major uncompleted / undelivered liners from the pre-WW2 era do you all find the most beautiful.

Is it the traditional, though large and powerful looking Oceanic?

Or the unique and distinctive Vaterland II?

Or finally the lovely and illfated Stockholm

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 08-06-2010 03:53 PM

My favorite is the STOCKHOLM, perhaps because she actually was completed and there is an extensive photographic record of her interiors. She was a modern, stylistic liner with just a slight nod to tradition, and would have aged quite well right through the 1960s had she not been destroyed in the War.

Rich

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 08-06-2010 04:24 PM

I completely agree about the Stockholm. She was a beautifully designed ship (she looked 15-years newer than her actual age) and would have made a great companion ship of Kungsholm/Gripsholm.

Had the Stockholm(s) not been destroyed, there may have never been Kungsholm ('53) or she would have appeared later in the 1950s as Gripsholm did.

Vaterland II was another liner that always intrigued me. She was Germanic but w/Normandie inspired flair. A very unique looking ship!

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Vaccaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 465

posted 08-07-2010 05:54 AM

STOCKHOLM indeed. Remarkably shaped, well balanced, elegant and modern for a ship of 1940.

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thundergod
First Class Passenger
Member # 5619

posted 08-08-2010 02:27 PM

I have seen a rendering of a replacement for Gripsholm -57. It was first supposed to be built in 1970 and later again in 1975. The rendering shows a sister to Kungsholm -66 but with only one funnel (aft) and some other minor changes. The rendering is available in the great book "Amerikabåtarna" that was published in 2008 i think.

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H.M.S.Bonaventure
First Class Passenger
Member # 17509

posted 08-08-2010 03:30 PM

I would have to say that I like the Stockholm of 1940 as she was actually completed it was just that SAL could not take delivery of her due to WWII. I remember coming across a website that actually showed interiors of the Stockholm when she had been renamed Sabaudia by the Italian. Website also showed interiors of the Italian liners.

Anyone know if this website still exists?

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 08-08-2010 04:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by H.M.S.Bonaventure:
I would have to say that I like the Stockholm of 1940 as she was actually completed it was just that SAL could not take delivery of her due to WWII. I remember coming across a website that actually showed interiors of the Stockholm when she had been renamed Sabaudia by the Italian. Website also showed interiors of the Italian liners.
Anyone know if this website still exists?

Yes, that would be Maurizio Eliseo's excellent website, www.transatlantici.com . It's in Italian, but on the Home Page, down on the left side, click on "archivio navi." An alphabetical list comes up, click on the letter "S", then on "Sabaudia", for 176 fine photos of STOCKHOLM--probably the most comprehensive documentation of her interiors anywhere, taken by the builder's yard at the time of her completion. I especially was intrigued by her outdoor cinema, with the projection booth located in the aft funnel.

Rich

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 08-08-2010 08:27 PM

Two thumbs up and two big toes up for STOCKHOLM. Great looking ship, inside and out.

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Rex
First Class Passenger
Member # 1113

posted 09-12-2010 05:22 PM

For some reason I like the Vaterland. I find it very handsome.

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Maasdam
First Class Passenger
Member # 3858

posted 09-14-2010 08:25 AM

Stockholm was indeed a very handsome liner.

The Statendam/Justicia 1917.

Greetings Ben.

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