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posted 07-24-2009 09:05 AM      Profile for Guest        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Today:

She appears to be making her way to Dubai Drydocklands.


Follow her story here:
http://www.chriscunard.com/today-QE2.htm

See the map here.


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posted 07-24-2009 09:15 AM      Profile for Guest        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Another image:


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posted 07-24-2009 04:24 PM      Profile for LenKinap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dry Dock is only done to remove all dirt accumulated during his long stop or/and is necessary to have the right to navigate. During the sea trials done the last few weeks/month, they could have detected some failures that make the ship unsafe to navigate without problem (I think her last dry dock for Cunard was not very old).

But dry dock is not necessary to prepare her for her new role of floating hotel and center in Cape Town (and Dubai is an expensive place to refurbish a ship). If some changes have to be done inside of the "hotel", China, Taiwan have a lot a cheap facilities to do it.

That's why I state that China, without the idea of scrapping but "cheap" refurbishment at low cost, was or is an option. The AIS order was not so stupid, I think


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posted 07-24-2009 04:29 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did'nt she skip her last scheduled Cunard drydocking and work was carried out dockside?

Her boot topping was in pretty bad shape the last few months in service from images I saw. While she was in L.A. for the last time, her boot topping looked quite bad IMO.


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posted 07-24-2009 05:14 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think she's been out the water since April 2006? Labour is cheap in Dubai and why pay someone else to do the work half way around the world when you have your own yard next door?

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posted 07-24-2009 05:31 PM      Profile for LenKinap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The last real DD was between late April 2006 to May 2006. Labor cost are much lower in China, even Taïwan than at Dubai.

But It was only one track to try to explain the strange AIS order for China. This order was reported, typed and is not a rumor. Maybe a bad/false track ..


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posted 07-24-2009 06:11 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Possibly a dry dock is a requirement of the insurer for this voyage? Cover has taken effect from 20 July.
As to the AIS, it could well have been a prank by one of the skeleton crew aboard... they may even live there and want to go home Who knows? I wouldn't take much notice of it; sometimes one sees very odd things in there.

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posted 07-25-2009 12:32 AM      Profile for Guest        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pam - I suspect you are correct. Also, as her Port of Registry has changed to Dubai (from Southampton) I suspect she may need a new seaworthiness certificate?
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posted 07-25-2009 12:37 AM      Profile for Guest        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Did'nt she skip her last scheduled Cunard drydocking and work was carried out dockside?

Her boot topping was in pretty bad shape the last few months in service from images I saw. While she was in L.A. for the last time, her boot topping looked quite bad IMO.


You are correct about the last refit. Also, her boot top was touched up in Dubai - see
here, and scroll down you'll see pics of her listing, to facilitate the painting of her boot topping while in the water.


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posted 07-25-2009 01:22 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A few things they might need to address before she moves to Cape Town.

If she is to be there for 18 months they will need to consider cold ironing rather than running an engine for the entire time. Currently there is no provision for this in CT.

South African power outlets (and therefore all appliances etc) have 3 round pin sockets/outlets - these will need to be provided throughout.

WIFI, both tourists and certainly South Africans cannot survive without the internet and they are used to having it freely available.


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posted 07-25-2009 02:48 AM      Profile for LenKinap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Possibly a dry dock is a requirement of the insurer for this voyage? Cover has taken effect from 20 July.
As to the AIS, it could well have been a prank by one of the skeleton crew aboard... they may even live there and want to go home Who knows? I wouldn't take much notice of it; sometimes one sees very odd things in there.

Pam


All these informations are possibilities and are logical, DD is certainly for a requirement of the insurer for this voyage, you are right. Also to keep the ship in good condition for 18 month in static use.

When SS France was docked after 1974, one of the first thing they did was a DD to clean and paint his hull in november 1976. And the dirt was very important. "Le Havre" was not the cleanest place in the 70's, but her hull was really dirty.

Look at:

http://www.revedefrance.com/nouvellepage5.htm

Regards...


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posted 07-25-2009 04:32 AM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mike

If QE 2 is used as a hotel in Cape Town most of the people staying on board will be from outside South Africa and therefore not affected by the type of plug used on board !


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posted 07-25-2009 10:17 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Neil - totally disagree, currently non African overseas visitors are down by up to 70%, if they are depending on Euro/US visitors to fill her up outside the 1 month of the World Cup then they need their head tested - if she does not appeal to the SA domestic market then she will flop in a spectacular manner.

It would be like berthing her on the Thames and refusing to serve anything but Arabic food throughout her stay inc breakfast!

The biggest market for her outside the World Cup is the SA domestic market both corporate and leisure. There are simply not enough QE2 "fans" prepared to fly to SA just to spend a couple of nights on board for the rest of the time - lets face it we here are the best market in that regard, how many of you are prepared to fly all the way to SA just to visit QE2 ? Not many and she has what 900 cabins to fill every night.


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posted 07-25-2009 02:26 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wonder if her operators would even bother trying to fill the cabins on Deck 4-5. Those small cabins would be a big disapointment to the average traveler wanting to experience an elegant ocean liner.
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posted 07-27-2009 11:26 AM      Profile for viking109        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sounds like it might not quite be a done deal just yet according to this report.
http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=76832
This thread on CT seems to have produced very little interest. A sign maybe that there is little interest in an inactive cruise ship?

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posted 07-28-2009 01:02 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry I have to agree with the report. If only because of where they will have to dock her. And what is South African about QE2 ? Visitors don't come here to enjoy the best of British.

And CT has plenty of hotel space, were they planning Durban for instance where due to planning delays for several hotels and the new marina we are going to be short of a few thousand hotel beds next year and the year after and where we have a perfect berth for her then I would support the idea as it makes sense. Also Durban has year round trade rather than seasonal as in CT.


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posted 07-28-2009 05:43 AM      Profile for viking109        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was lucky enough to visit Cape Town in 2001 and stayed in the Constantia area. Absolutely stunning place.
Much as I love QE2 ( but maybe only as an active ship ) I agree that you could find somewhere much better to stay in or around Cape Town.

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Latest rumour is that QE2's funnel is now blue & purple - not sure how much truth there is behind this.

Does anyone here have any shots of her in Al Mina?


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posted 08-03-2009 02:36 AM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Chris:
Latest rumour is that QE2's funnel is now blue & purple - not sure how much truth there is behind this.
Absolutely none, I hope.

Sometimes I wish she had just gone to the breakers. At least it would save us all the rumors and such.

I dreamt last night that QE2 was still in service and he was in Southampton about to board for a crossing to New York. So QE2 nostalgia has even pervaded my sleep now. And if her funnel is blue and purple - well I just might have nightmares!


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posted 08-03-2009 02:49 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It would make sense if they did change it, surely if they are using her for commercial reasons then the Cunard logos, names and indeed funnel colours would have to be removed ?

I doubt Cunard would want their name all over the place especially if it turned out to be a total service nightmare ! Just because they have plenty cash (or did have) does not mean the service levels and experience in general is going to be a good one.


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quote:
Originally posted by mike sa:
It would make sense if they did change it, surely if they are using her for commercial reasons then the Cunard logos, names and indeed funnel colours would have to be removed.
I would certainly expect the Cunard name and logos to be removed, but not the funnel colors.

With QUEEN MARY there is precedent for keeping them and as far as I know Cunard does not "own" its funnel colors - someone else could use them even on an operational ship if it so chose. Indeed while I am not sure if there are any now, in the past Cunard has hardly been the only company to use them.


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The Cunard Logos have been removed already (or actually painted over).See Here
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris:
Latest rumour is that QE2's funnel is now blue & purple ...

Excuse me as I go puke.


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Which one of Starwood's brands comes in blue & purple? A Sheraton or a W? The mind boggles. If true I expect there will be a photo about sometime soon.

Pam


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Pam: as long as it isn't blue and yellow for Comfort Inn!

I think that regardless of QE2's funnel colours she will still look splendid as she sails into Cape Town.


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