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lasuvidaboy
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posted 07-07-2006 05:33 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:

'standard of living' is in some parts of Europe much higher than in the U.S. - all the things found in the U.S. only some years ago are now also available - )



Now if you could only take a shower in Europe w/real water pressure I would be thrilled!


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Ernst
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posted 07-07-2006 05:48 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Be thrilled.

Europe is of course very heterogen - you will find a different situation in Greece than in Austria - where the water supply is in any aspect FAR superior to everything I have encountered in the U.S. - in Vienna we have mineral water coming out of the tap (litterally - the whole city is supplied by water from mountain springs - no chlorine - water I buy here in bottles is of worse quality) and the pressure is actually pretty high - certainly higher than what is usually found in the U.S.

"Standard of Living" is of course very, very subjective. Nevertheless, for many people things like availability of goods and certain services are a measure for that - and things have changed a lot in Europe during the last years - some regions even exceed the U.S. in what would have been found in the U.S. only some years ago. (...not that I like all of that...)

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PamM
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posted 07-07-2006 06:04 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The taste of water is probably one of the most subjective things going Ernst. Having been brought up purely drinking desalinated water I deteste most mineral/spring waters. I now very much dislike soft water, it is tasteless and love the real hard water areas. Water has real taste here and I only buy bottled water when out and about needing a drink.

Water on ships is often chemical tasting, as it is in many cities, but by and large it's OK to drink.. as a mixer

Water pressure? never had a problem there in general, seems no different to me here or in the US? It would depend on individual areas and even down to properties I imagine.

Pam


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PamM
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posted 07-07-2006 06:10 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lasuvidaboy, in the US you use narrower plumbing that we do.. in your toilet systems anyway. the water flow is very slow too compared to ours.. hence all the blockages... is that the same for incoming water too?

Pam

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Ernst
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posted 07-07-2006 06:22 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pam - the water in Vienna is actally pretty 'hard' - there is a lot of lime in there - which causes problems with the piping.....

Seriously - neither the U.S. nor Europe are homgenouse (concering water supply or other things) - whereas there are still many 'poor' regions in Europe some regions are not only catching up but offer an extremly high quality of living - which of course is very subjective.


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posted 07-07-2006 08:17 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Lasuvidaboy, in the US you use narrower plumbing that we do.. in your toilet systems anyway. the water flow is very slow too compared to ours.. hence all the blockages... is that the same for incoming water too?

Pam

[ 07-07-2006: Message edited by: PamM ]


The problem w/some of our toilets today is that they are required to be a 1.6 gallon flush. Years ago they used quite a bit more water and many older homes still have the older units. Many plumbers love the new ones as they get calls to clear the blockages. Where I live in the hills the water pressure is actually to high and we need several pressure regulators to restrict it. The pressure needs to be high to get water to homes in the hills and canyons here in L.A.. If the regulators fail, our metal sprinkler heads can literally shoot high into the air when the systems comes on-making our garden look like a water park. As for showers, the BEST showers I ever had were in Australia w/those cool rain type shower nozzles.


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Frosty 4
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posted 07-08-2006 10:05 AM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
WOW! We went from oil prices,cruise pricing ,SUVs,sod,and toilet /plumbing water pressures. Did I miss any?? \
Frosty 4

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PamM
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posted 07-08-2006 10:55 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
LOL... what hair gel manages to keep those ??? in place all day? Is your water pressure strong enough to dampen them down? or is a special mineral water required?

Pam


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posted 07-08-2006 11:25 AM      Profile for timb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Lasuvidaboy, in the US you use narrower plumbing that we do.. in your toilet systems anyway. the water flow is very slow too compared to ours.. hence all the blockages... is that the same for incoming water too?

Pam

[ 07-07-2006: Message edited by: PamM ]


Pam the incoming main on my house is 3/4" and most of the branches in the house are 1/2". Pressure is usually around 40 psi


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Originally posted by Glencoe:
Makes you wonder what the point of having a truck is if you don't actually utilize it for what it was designed for.

..or sports wear!


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