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Onno
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posted 04-03-2006 07:36 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello ship friends,

Last week I was browsing trough an secondhand store and came across a little booklet about ships. The book itself isn’t that interesting but too my surprise in the middle were fold out pages with a cutaway profile drawing of ss Hamburg. For a mere 95 cents I could not leave it behind.

Here is a link to a large size picture
Hamburg

Onno


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Ernst
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posted 04-03-2006 07:40 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well spent money. Thank you.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 04-03-2006 10:03 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have a great pic of her on my computer. In it she is passing a sailing ship-very close (I think closer than the Italia liners would pass one another). It is a very dramatic photo that can be seen at ship spotting.com
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Stevie2020
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posted 04-04-2006 10:58 AM      Profile for Stevie2020   Author's Homepage   Email Stevie2020   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just curious but why do the decks slant upward in the bow section. I have noticed this on plenty of classic liners and never really know why.

Steve


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Maasdam
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posted 04-04-2006 11:02 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh nice Onno quite an present to find such books.

Greetings Ben.


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Ernst
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posted 04-04-2006 11:14 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Stevie2020:
Just curious but why do the decks slant upward in the bow section. I have noticed this on plenty of classic liners and never really know why.

Steve


In case of a leak the ship would not only sink straight down but also tilt e.g. to the front should the leak be closer to the bow.
As you might know ships are divided into sections by 'bulkheads' to contain the flooding in case of a leak to a section of the hull. To prevent the water from flooding neigbouring section the 'dividing walls' (bulkheads) have to be 'high' enough so that the water does not flow over the 'upper edge' of this wall into the next section - as the ship is not only going "straight' down, but also tilting if the leak is closer to one end (bow or stern) the bulkheads closer to the stern/bow have to be higher to allow the ship to stay afloat with a certain number of sections flooded.
To achieve this some (usually older) ships have the decks bending upwards at the bow and the stern so that the bulkheads are higher at the bow/stern.

This is a bit simplified, but I guess one can understand what I mean - please felle free to correct me or add comments to this "explanation".

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 04-04-2006 12:12 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Stevie2020:
Just curious but why do the decks slant upward in the bow section. I have noticed this on plenty of classic liners and never really know why.

Steve


QM2 also has a slight sheer far forward. I believe that she is the only large newbuild to have this design feature.


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Ernst
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posted 04-04-2006 12:15 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Many modern ships have the forward parts of their decks inclined a bit. Maybe this is also the case for QM2.
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Ocean Liners
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posted 04-04-2006 12:58 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Onno:

The book itself isn’t that interesting but too my surprise in the middle were fold out pages with a cutaway profile drawing of ss Hamburg.


Onno, Hapag-Lloyd issued a brochure "Kreuzfahrten MS Europa" in the seventies and featured her cutaway, I got a free copy from an agent in Frankfurt.

[ 04-04-2006: Message edited by: Ocean Liners ]


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sslewis
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posted 04-04-2006 01:37 PM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well done Onno!
You gave me the "market" bug and I have a serious cash leak!
ss"Hamburg " is such a nice ship, even on plans or profile.
Look for calendars too and menus or timetables, usually in dusty boxes at the back of the shop.....

Best ;-)


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 04-04-2006 06:17 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
Many modern ships have the forward parts of their decks inclined a bit. Maybe this is also the case for QM2.

I found this out by comparing photos of other large newbuilds and QM2. I used a straight edge and QM2 seems to be the one with a noticeable sheer far forward. In comparision, QE2's sheer begins just forward of her superstructure.


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