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[ 03-30-2012: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:Some things have not changes so much since the film was originally released.
Hard to believe it's 14 years later.
What I have done in the last year or so is read some good books about the ship - or rather, the whole class. I've read the two books by Mark Chirnside: "The Olympic Ships", which tells the history of all three ships, and also his "... Illustrated history of the Olympic class", which has similar text (though less of it) and many more pictures. These book put the Olympic ships firmly in the context of their time and show that they were simply of their time, along with a number of other, equivalent-sized ships. I've also read 'Titanic Lives", which is a good account of some of the people on board, and how and why they came to be there.
Finally, I've been tempted by but haven't bought this book: "RMS Titanic: 1909-1912 Olympic Class (Owner's Workshop Manual)" - a Haynes Workshop manual!
What I have done in the last year or so is read some good books about the ship - or rather, the whole class. I've read the two books by Mark Chirnside: "The Olympic Class Ships", which tells the history of all three ships, and also his "... Illustrated history of the Olympic class", which has similar text (though less of it) and many more pictures. These book put the Olympic ships firmly in the context of their time and show that they were simply of their time, along with a number of other, equivalent-sized ships. I've also read 'Titanic Lives", which is a good account of some of the people on board, and how and why they came to be there.
(And apologies to those who already knew all this stuff, which is probably everyone....)
[ 03-30-2012: Message edited by: Tom Burke ]
quote:Originally posted by Tom Burke:...And apologies to those who already knew all this stuff, which is probably everyone...
Not me. Never heard of those titles and they sound amazing. I spend WAY to much time on the internet or watching mindless TV and simply not enough time actually reading books. Maybe it's time to cancel my cable TV too. Been a long time since I've cradled a good read.
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:One of the first books I received on the WSL ships was from the 'Ocean Liners of the Past' series which were reprinted from 'The Shibuilder'. That started my interest in the Olympic Class liners when I was around 11-years-old.
Funnily enough, right at this moment I am sitting in my shop onboard the Queen Mary (PastTimes Collectibles), looking at that exact book! As well as the Lusitania and Mauretania version.
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:They are wonderful books. I have the entire series which includes the Olympic and Titanic, Lusitania and Mauretania, Aquitania, Empress of Britain, Normandie and Queen Mary. The books I have were printed in the mid-1970s and ALL bought new at Vroman's bookstore in Pasadena.
You are lucky! They are great books!
Vroman's is one of the only books stores that seems pretty good about having Ocean Liner books (except the other day all they had was Titanic stuff....which I guess is to be expected)... they are a great book store! Borders was ok but of course they are gone now...Barnes and Noble never has anything ship related.
and started to watch the new TV-series, which aired yesterday on flemish public television, VRT één.
It looks interesting, though a bit chaotic.
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quote:THE 100th anniversary of the Titanic tragedy is being widely observed on both sides of the Atlantic, at museum openings, special exhibits and lectures, theatrical performances, concerts, readings and walking and graveyard tours. Guests at some events are invited to dress in fashions of the era, and Titanic-themed cocktails and re-creations of the elaborate first-class meal from the storied liner’s last dinner will be served. Two Titanic Memorial Cruises to the site of the sinking are planned, and the ships are scheduled to be there on the anniversary, April 15.But what was life onboard the Titanic actually like? Not much like taking a cruise today.Traveling on the Titanic was a voyage of purpose, primarily to transport mail, cargo and passengers, many of whom were emigrating, as steadily and safely as possible.Designed to withstand harsh seas and cut through water, the Titanic was built with efficiency in mind. Ships today are capable of traveling at speeds similar to the Titanic’s but rarely do, as cruising is about pleasure, said John Maxtone-Graham, a maritime historian and author of the newly published book “Titanic Tragedy: A New Look at the Lost Liner.”Eight professional musicians played for first-class (and occasionally second-class) passengers on the Titanic, but there was no other professional entertainment. There were also no shore excursions, and activities were limited to things like playing cards, reading, socializing and sitting or promenading on deck to get fresh air. “The average person today would be bored to tears on the Titanic,” said Charles Weeks, emeritus professor of marine transportation at the Maine Maritime Academy.There was a library, a smoking room for men and a reading-and-writing room, used mostly by women. There were church services. But there were no shops onboard, and no pools, only a small “plunge bath,” according to Mr. Maxtone-Graham.Today’s cruise ships boast movies, lectures, art and cooking classes, casinos, Broadway-style performances, magic shows, rock climbing, surfing, ice-skating rinks, comedy shows and well-known entertainers. On board the Royal Caribbean’s Allure of the Seas, currently the word’s largest cruise ship, there is a boardwalk, a zip-line ride with views over a 328-foot-long outdoor garden called Central Park (with real trees and plants), numerous swimming pools, extensive spa services and some 25 dining options, as well as the first Starbucks at sea.On the Titanic, in first class, there was one dining room for all meals, using formal, white-glove service at assigned tables, and one à la carte restaurant.Cabins today on average are larger, with private bathrooms, and balconies are more common. On the Titanic, there were only two staterooms with balcony-like private promenades.The Titanic’s first-class cabins “were very luxurious for their time, but by today’s standards, were very small,” said Charles A. Haas, president of the Titanic International Society and a co-author of “Titanic: Triumph and Tragedy.” “They were not much larger than today’s tourist-grade motel rooms.”Cruising today is more democratic. Cruise ships typically have one class of service, unlike the Titanic’s three, and provide more public spaces that are available to all passengers. The Titanic had about 18 percent public space, but the current average is about 35 to 40 percent, and on luxury ships “well above 50 to 70 percent,” said Douglas Ward, author of the “Berlitz Complete Guide to Cruising and Cruise Ships 2012.” And modern cruising has introduced extensive advances for passengers with disabilities, he wrote, rendering it “one of the most hassle-free vacations possible.”Pet lovers may have preferred to sail on the Titanic. There was a kennel onboard, located near the butcher, but today animals are not routinely permitted on cruise ships. But even some of the most ardent Titanic fans allow that most changes have been for the better.Creating a replica ship has been discussed in Titanic circles in recent years. “But luckily, none of this has come to pass,” Mr. Haas said. “As good as the Titanic was in her day, it would be a practical and financial disaster.”
But what was life onboard the Titanic actually like? Not much like taking a cruise today.
Traveling on the Titanic was a voyage of purpose, primarily to transport mail, cargo and passengers, many of whom were emigrating, as steadily and safely as possible.
Designed to withstand harsh seas and cut through water, the Titanic was built with efficiency in mind. Ships today are capable of traveling at speeds similar to the Titanic’s but rarely do, as cruising is about pleasure, said John Maxtone-Graham, a maritime historian and author of the newly published book “Titanic Tragedy: A New Look at the Lost Liner.”
Eight professional musicians played for first-class (and occasionally second-class) passengers on the Titanic, but there was no other professional entertainment. There were also no shore excursions, and activities were limited to things like playing cards, reading, socializing and sitting or promenading on deck to get fresh air. “The average person today would be bored to tears on the Titanic,” said Charles Weeks, emeritus professor of marine transportation at the Maine Maritime Academy.
There was a library, a smoking room for men and a reading-and-writing room, used mostly by women. There were church services. But there were no shops onboard, and no pools, only a small “plunge bath,” according to Mr. Maxtone-Graham.
Today’s cruise ships boast movies, lectures, art and cooking classes, casinos, Broadway-style performances, magic shows, rock climbing, surfing, ice-skating rinks, comedy shows and well-known entertainers. On board the Royal Caribbean’s Allure of the Seas, currently the word’s largest cruise ship, there is a boardwalk, a zip-line ride with views over a 328-foot-long outdoor garden called Central Park (with real trees and plants), numerous swimming pools, extensive spa services and some 25 dining options, as well as the first Starbucks at sea.
On the Titanic, in first class, there was one dining room for all meals, using formal, white-glove service at assigned tables, and one à la carte restaurant.
Cabins today on average are larger, with private bathrooms, and balconies are more common. On the Titanic, there were only two staterooms with balcony-like private promenades.
The Titanic’s first-class cabins “were very luxurious for their time, but by today’s standards, were very small,” said Charles A. Haas, president of the Titanic International Society and a co-author of “Titanic: Triumph and Tragedy.” “They were not much larger than today’s tourist-grade motel rooms.”
Cruising today is more democratic. Cruise ships typically have one class of service, unlike the Titanic’s three, and provide more public spaces that are available to all passengers. The Titanic had about 18 percent public space, but the current average is about 35 to 40 percent, and on luxury ships “well above 50 to 70 percent,” said Douglas Ward, author of the “Berlitz Complete Guide to Cruising and Cruise Ships 2012.” And modern cruising has introduced extensive advances for passengers with disabilities, he wrote, rendering it “one of the most hassle-free vacations possible.”
Pet lovers may have preferred to sail on the Titanic. There was a kennel onboard, located near the butcher, but today animals are not routinely permitted on cruise ships. But even some of the most ardent Titanic fans allow that most changes have been for the better.
Creating a replica ship has been discussed in Titanic circles in recent years. “But luckily, none of this has come to pass,” Mr. Haas said. “As good as the Titanic was in her day, it would be a practical and financial disaster.”
Tanya Mohn is a journalist who writes frequently about travel for The New York Times.
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