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linerguy
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posted 10-26-2011 01:04 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the bottom line is that, despite the change of registry, Cunard will go on. Yes, some people are miffed about the change but, in the overall scheme of things, I can’t see many people abandoning the line.

That doesn’t mean that people don’t have a valid reason for being upset. Remember, Cunard’s constant bragging about its history is THEIR idea, not ours. When a company talks out of both sides of its mouth, it loses credibility; even when it comes to things as seemingly insignificant as a port of registry.

People have brought up the fact that ships like Cunard Princess and Countess were not British registered. That’s true but, back then, we were not so closely connected, Cunard didn’t issue press releases about it and, besides, they were sub-par, crappy ships that made absolutely no impact on the industry.

On the flip-side, why do people continue to knock Cunard (okay, Carnival) for playing up its history in its marketing; as if this is something new? They’ve been doing this since nearly the beginning; at least two indisputable facts remain: the company is STILL in business and it DOES have a long history. While that doesn’t mean that Cunard is the same company it was 100 or even 75 years ago, it doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily worse. I personally don’t buy into the tripe that the Cunard of yesteryear was all it’s been cracked up to be. In fact, if someone tries to tell me that the original Queen Mary was a more comfortable ship than QM2, I’d tell them they need a reality check.

-Russ

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posted 10-26-2011 01:52 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by linerguy:
I think the bottom line is that, despite the change of registry, Cunard will go on. Yes, some people are miffed about the change but, in the overall scheme of things, I can’t see many people abandoning the line.
It's sad to see Cunard ending this tradition of flagging ships in the UK, but at the end of the day, they are still going to be around. If Cunard had continued to flag their ships in the UK, they will most definitely raise their fares to pay for the increased wages. In that scenario, I'm sure there will be a even bigger backlash as to why Cunard raised their prices, making it less affordable.

I agree with what Ernie had mentioned earlier about Cunard being more honest as to why they re-flagged their ships, rather than hide the fact with the marriage at sea program.


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Isn't the Veendam registered in the bahamas vs the netherlands? HAL still goes on about her Dutch heritage and everyone buys it regardless of the name on her back side. This too shall pass everyone....I am sure there will be no difference onboard
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posted 10-26-2011 02:08 PM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by linerguy:
is STILL in business and it DOES have a long history. While that doesn’t mean that Cunard is the same company it was 100 or even 75 years ago, it doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily worse. I personally don’t buy into the tripe that the Cunard of yesteryear was all it’s been cracked up to be. In fact, if someone tries to tell me that the original Queen Mary was a more comfortable ship than QM2, I’d tell them they need a reality check.

-Russ

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Thank you Russ,

Cunard was in the ocean transportation business of ferrying passengers from Britain to North America, and had an unsung and uninteresting freight business. P&O Britain to down-under, Elder Dempster and Shaw Savill to Africa. Cunard got the biggest ships since the NYC-Southampton route was the most popular.

Crossing Cunard in the pre-airplane days, especially the majority middle classes in the spartan tourist digs would not cut it today. Passengers then knew no different.

The old Cunard business model is as relevant as a turntable with LP's: fun to listen to on occasion, but no way practical for buying, storing or playing music the way we do today.

X-Atlantic or X-Pacific is done today for a relaxing vacation and to experience a less rushed world. I do enjoy it, and if time allowed not bother with an airplane. Cunard does the crossing, especially on QM2 [with 100,000 things to do at a 1/4 to 3] better than just about anyone.


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Veendam was the last HAL ship reflagged to the Dutch Flag with homeport Rotterdam. Flag changing ceremony on jan.10-2006
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