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greybeard
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posted 08-07-2009 07:53 PM      Profile for greybeard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have seen reports, in Greek (which I can't read) and French (which I can make a stab at) which seem to suggest that Greek shipping company Hellenic Seaways has bought easyCruise.

Anyone know any more?


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mike sa
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posted 08-08-2009 02:05 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I believe he has sold the company but keeps EasyCruise Life.
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Christophe D
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posted 08-08-2009 02:54 AM      Profile for Christophe D   Author's Homepage   Email Christophe D   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, the article said that Hellenic Seaways has bought Easy Cruise LTD and their two cruises ships.
Yannis Vardinoyannis, president of Hellenic Seaways said that an opportunity for his compagny to enter in cruise market.

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 08-08-2009 04:44 AM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Stelios sold his first cruise ship some time ago so there was only the one cruise ship ' easyCruise Life ' in the fleet.

One report said that was not sold so it could continue to be operated by Mediterranean Classic Cruises.


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PamM
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posted 08-08-2009 05:53 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The reports on Thursday & Friday were conflicting; I suppose something has been lost in the Greek translation. Some said the vessels would be incorporated into the Hellenic Seaways fleet, others say they only have the right to use the marketing name easyCruise in the destination ports. As I understand it, but could possibly be wrong, Anek & Sea Star own 70% of Hellenic Seaways, but easyGroup also have a stake in Sea Star, so could be a case of anything re actual ownership of easyCruise Life.

We can only wait for a real translation I think, which I haven't seen yet.

Pam


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PamM
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posted 08-08-2009 06:42 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Hellenic Seaways press release translates as

By Google
"Apart from the cruise ship easyCruise Life, capacity 574 passengers, will join the fleet of our company, the Hellenic Seaways acquires from easyGroup the exclusive right to use the mark easyCruise to all destinations in the Mediterranean."

By Babel Fish

"Apart from the cruise ship easyCruise Life, capacity of 574 passengers, that will be included in the fleet of our company, Hellenic Seaways acquires from the easyGroup right of exclusive use of signal easyCruise in the all destinations of Mediterranean."

Pam


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greybeard
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posted 08-09-2009 05:49 AM      Profile for greybeard     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
According to an article in the Business section of today's Sunday Times "EasyCruise, another of [Stelios's] high-profile businesses, has been quietly sold to Hellenic Seaways, one of Greece’s largest ferry groups. Haji-Ioannou has taken a stake in Sea Star Capital, Hellenic’s largest shareholder.

Any clearer?


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hotman
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posted 08-10-2009 12:17 AM      Profile for hotman   Author's Homepage   Email hotman   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Indeed, so in fact Stelious has sold easycruise to himself. Also, Medeterranean Classic Cruises which is now marketing the EasyLife vessel, will cease doing so at the end of the summer. Maybe Seaways will acquire the Norwegian Dream, which has gone missing from AIS a few days back??
hotman

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PamM
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posted 09-15-2010 07:50 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
easyCruise Life has not moved for 11 months; tied up in Drapestona. Today she has been towed to a shipyard in Eleusis, but more than likely just for the certification which was postponed from April 09 to Sept 2010 to be carried out to keep her in class, perhaps ever hopeful of a sale/charter. A few photos from July:-

Pam


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 09-15-2010 05:49 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I will never understand how he initially made any money out of EasyCruise with fares so low - maybe he didn't?
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Maasdam
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posted 09-15-2010 06:06 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was he not the man who wanted to turn the industry up side down as he did within the airline industry. Making ridiculous remarks after his meeting with Mickey Arisson. Look at Easy cruises now 1 sold vessel 1 lay-up fore 9 months. You can not change a +150 year industry with spartan looking vessels and a big mouth.

Greetings Ben.


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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 09-15-2010 07:20 PM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ben

You may think he has a big mouth but it should be remembered he also set up Easy Jet which is a very successful airline and also some other companies with the ' Easy ' at the start of their names.

He gives a lot of the profits made from his companies to charity.

I wonder what he would think of you !

Any suggestions ?

.

[ 09-15-2010: Message edited by: Neil - Ex P. & O. S. N. Company. ]


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Maasdam
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posted 09-15-2010 08:25 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Neil - Ex P. & O. S. N. Company.:
Ben

You may think he has a big mouth but it should be remembered he also set up Easy Jet which is a very successful airline and also some other companies with the ' Easy ' at the start of their names.

He gives a lot of the profits made from his companies to charity.

I wonder what he would think of you !

Any suggestions ?

.

[ 09-15-2010: Message edited by: Neil - Ex P. & O. S. N. Company. ]


Oh he do good things with his money, he's by definition good. Well Easy cruise is a big flop and yes he still have a big mouth nothing more then facts.

You know Neil I give no dam about what you or Heliossos think of me......

[ 09-15-2010: Message edited by: Maasdam ]


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SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)
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posted 09-16-2010 02:35 AM      Profile for SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)   Email SalamisFiloxenia (Tom...)   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:

You know Neil I give no dam about what you or Heliossos think of me......

[ 09-15-2010: Message edited by: Maasdam ]


So you shouldn't, don't let them bully you.


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Ernst
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posted 09-16-2010 04:01 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:
[...]You can not change a +150 year industry with spartan looking vessels [...]

There are A LOT of people who enjoy traveling, certainly would enjoy traveling by ship but never ever would consider to step aboard a contemporary cruise ship.

Whether they are enough to 'change the whole industry' is a different story (very likely not) but there IS a market for ships without the tasteless decor, ships that are not floating amusement parks ships where the traveling aspect is more in the foreground - and right now the '150 year old' cruise industry is not serving this market at all. easyCruise was a failure (e.g. calling it a cruise was where the problems started) but it for sure was an interesting approach to offer a different way of traveling by ship.


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Maasdam
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posted 09-16-2010 05:45 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:

There are A LOT of people who enjoy traveling, certainly would enjoy traveling by ship but never ever would consider to step aboard a contemporary cruise ship.

Whether they are enough to 'change the whole industry' is a different story (very likely not) but there IS a market for ships without the tasteless decor, ships that are not floating amusement parks ships where the traveling aspect is more in the foreground - and right now the '150 year old' cruise industry is not serving this market at all. easyCruise was a failure (e.g. calling it a cruise was where the problems started) but it for sure was an interesting approach to offer a different way of traveling by ship.


I agree with you that the approach was interesting. My problem is that he was yelling that he in his own would chance the cruise industry. And that is why I made the quite above.

Greetings Ben.


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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 09-16-2010 05:55 AM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ben

Even you can not deny that he offered an unusual choice for cruising even if it was not a financial success.

Now, what was I thinking about you !

Oh Yes !


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PamM
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posted 09-16-2010 06:47 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Stelios is in the public eye.
Thank you Neil for turning yet another thread into a personal backstabbing squabbling match.
Goodbye

Pam


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Maasdam
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posted 09-16-2010 07:14 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:

I agree with you that the approach was interesting. My problem is that he was yelling that he on his own would chance the cruise industry. And that is why I made the quote above.

Greetings Ben.



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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 09-16-2010 01:08 PM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pam M

Time you remembered that not everybody has the same view on things.

It was Ben who slagged off Stelios first and not me !

If Ben can slag him off then why should I not say what I think and also mention his good points.

This sort of thing does not happen on my forum !

Seems you may also have a one sided view !

.


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posted 09-16-2010 02:21 PM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But Neil, he never said anything bad about YOU.. If you love your forum so much, please stay on it.

[ 09-16-2010: Message edited by: Thad ]


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Ernst
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quote:
Originally posted by Thad:
But Neil, he never said anything bad about YOU.. If you love your forum so much, please stay on it.


Maybe 'Neil - Ex P. & O. S. N. Company' is the pseudonym Stelios is using to post here and mentioning his internet forum was just a careless mistake. Think about it: People who own airlines can easily afford their own internet forum.


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Wow...is Easycruise even worth arguing about?
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I thought I was supposed to be Ruebens according to some on here !
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