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Waynaro
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posted 11-24-2002 11:49 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What happened to Chandris Cruises and their other divisions? I know Celebrity used to be part of Chandris and is currently owned by RCCL, but I always wondered why Chandris sold Celebrity to RCCL?
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posted 11-24-2002 01:12 PM      Profile for Amerikanis   Email Amerikanis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Chandris has a lot of Newbuildts in the 1990's, most of them in Germany at Meyer, Papenburg.

They sell to RCCL for an minimal Sum, i remember about 100 Million Dollars US.

But RCCL took extra their Debts.

They built the new Ships (Horizon, Zenith, Century, Galaxy, Mercury) in an short Time and have Problems with the Money.

Under RCCL the next Series was built (Millenium, Summit, Infinity, Constellation).

In former Times, Chandris was the biggest Cruise Company in the World, but only with old Tonnage.
This was BEFORE an Carnival and others are existing.

Some of the famous old Chandris Ships are
REGINA MAGNA
AMERIKANIS
BRITANIS
AUSTRALIS
ITALIS
MERIDIAN
VICTORIA
ROMANZA
ARIADNE

and others...

For me, until today the best Company in Relation between Price and what you get for your Money!!!

I am an loyal Cruisegoer to Chandris-Celebrity.


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Ðraikar
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posted 11-24-2002 09:08 PM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not much info about the Regina Magna,

she was the former Bremen

larger photos

Ðraikar

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Nesklau
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posted 11-25-2002 08:14 AM      Profile for Nesklau        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Some days ago I saw a Greek Oil Tanker at S. Sebastiao port (Brazil) with Chandris color scheme, including the famous X on funnel.
The name was in Greek so I couldn’t identify this ship.
Can somebody tell me if Chandris is still in business with tankers?

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Patrick
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posted 11-25-2002 11:28 AM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Chandris has a large fleet of cargo and tanker vessels operating worldwide.
Their main office-building is still in Pireaus.
I have ben there last time in 1999 and you can see there pictures of all there pax-vessels. Further more, the nautical crew of the now RCI-ships are still provided by Chandris as the line is still involved in the technical management of all Celebrity ships.

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Waynaro
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posted 11-25-2002 08:00 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patrick, so you are saying Chandris is still involve with RCI in the Celebrity division, but they are out of the cruise business, in terms of their own?
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Ðraikar
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posted 11-26-2002 03:13 AM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I looked for Chandris cargo and tankers but only found this photo of a "super tanker" named Patris with what seems to be a black hull


from greanpeace website

Ðraikar


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PamM
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posted 11-26-2002 05:20 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patris appears to be the only ULCC/VLCC owned by Chandris, though I did think they had 2 biggies. Go to Tanker World for the details. They do also have some smaller Afromax tankers according to that site, Astrea & Althea?, but there are more & various bulk carriers around.

Nesklau, Patris seems to have been chartered by Petrobras a few months ago which is probably when you would have seen her.

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AJL
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posted 11-26-2002 05:46 AM      Profile for AJL   Author's Homepage   Email AJL   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Chandris owns / operates these ships, which are listed from the biggest to the smallest (in DWT):

PATRIS (298,543 dwt, built in 2000, tanker/crude)

BRITANIS (276,824 dwt, built in 2002, tanker/crude)

PRESIDENTE TANCREDO NEVES (131,998, built in 1978, combi)

ALEXIA (91,741 dwt, built in 1982, tanker/crude)

ASTREA (84,999 dwt, built in 1999, tanker/product)

ALTHEA (84,991 dwt, built in 1999, tanker/product)

MARIVIC (81,283 dwt, built in 1981, tanker/crude)

ZEINAT (81,283 dwt, built in 1976, tanker/crude)

Un-named, being built by Daewoo HI (75,000 dwt,
bulker)

AMIRA (74,430 dwt, built in 2001, bulker)

MYRTO (74,430 dwt, built in 2001, bulker)

AMINA (72,346 dwt, built in 1973, tanker/crude)

AL SHARIFA II (66,700 dwt, built in 1974,
tanker/crude)

MARINIKI (64,282 dwt, built in 1989, bulker)

TENACITY (63,940 dwt, built in 1984, bulker)

ST MICHAELIS (45,576 dwt, built in 1981,
tanker/product)

ST NIKOLAI (45,754 dwt, built in 1982, tanker/product)

MARIETTA C (45,576 dwt, built in 1981, tanker/product)

AL NABILA 4 (27,841 dwt, built in 1982, tanker/product)


AJL


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Ðraikar
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posted 11-26-2002 08:51 PM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hard to imagine another ship out there named Britanis

Ðraikar


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posted 12-01-2002 08:26 AM      Profile for Nebrasil   Email Nebrasil   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very good information from PamM & AJL, thanks.
Tanker Presindente Tancredo Neves used to belong to Petrobras (Fronape). Maybe she has a Greek name by now.
As I live in an island in front of S. Sebatiao Port, I will keep my eyes open and will try to take a photo of this beautiful tanker to include in this topic.

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Ðraikar
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posted 06-18-2004 03:26 PM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey, I finally found an image of the tanker Britanis, it only took me about a year and a half to find one !

IMAGE and a few more of Britanis from
Auke Visser's International Super Tankers

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posted 06-18-2004 07:10 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ðraikar:
Not much info about the Regina Magna,

she was the former Bremen

larger photos

Ðraikar

[ 11-24-2002: Message edited by: Ðraikar ]


Hi Draikar to mine information the Bremen have never saild in the new HAPAG colors. She was al ready sold whene the company colors where chansed. The Europa was repainted after a refit in 1972. By that time Bremen was sold to Chandris. Have look on other sites to find a picture that she have repainted in the new colors, buth could not find one.


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posted 06-18-2004 11:23 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bremen sailed as a Cruise Ship rathen than a liner in 1970, She sailed in Caribbean waters out of New York in winter 69/70 she ended her Winter/Spring season on Apr.23 when she departed for her first trans Atlantic run in the seasons of 1970. thereafter she sailed 5 round trip crossings until Sep.18. then she started her Caribbean cruise seasons until Dec.13
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posted 06-20-2004 09:04 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Chandris also operated Regina Prima, Romantica, Fiorita in 1970s
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posted 06-21-2004 08:43 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Queen Frederica(ex Malolo) operated by Chandris in '60s-'70s

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posted 06-21-2004 11:26 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ah, the Malolo. A proper ship, when ships were ships and looked like ships! One of the three, to this Eastcoaster, Matson dream ships. Lurline (always liked that name), Monterey, and Malolo.

CGT, you were a Hawaii resident. I am confused as to whether the Malolo and the Matsonia were the same ship. I heard, long before this board, that there was a renaming.

But stories of sailings to Hawaii, the leis tossed into the sea, the Aloha tower. I always wanted to do this. My first Pacific crossing was aboard the General R.M. Blatchford, AP-153, to do things in the South Pacific!

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posted 06-21-2004 12:52 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malolo was renamed Matsonia after her 1937 refit. This refit added an additional deck as well as modern gravity davits. I always wondered why her designer used the older style davits when she was 1st built in the late 1920s. Mr. Gibbs was always into safety and that always perplexed me.
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Lurline was a family name, Lurline Matson Roth died within the last 10 years or so. Their incredible Northern California estate was used for the exterior shots as the 'Carrington' home on TVs 'Dynasty' in the 1980s. Malolo's fleetmates were the early great 1930s trio; Lurline, Monterey and Mariposa. These three were larger improved versions of the older Malolo. These ships were built for the Hawaiian market as well as the longer service out to the South Pacific. They of course went on to enjoy incredibly long careers. The final passenger ship called Lurline was retired from Matson service in 1970 and sold to Chandris Lines to become Britanis. The newer Monterey and Mariposa of the late 1950s were sold to Pacific Far East line (USA) and continued on until the late 1970s until being laid up and later sold off.
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Ðraikar
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posted 06-21-2004 02:59 PM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:

Hi Draikar to mine information the Bremen have never saild in the new HAPAG colors. She was al ready sold whene the company colors where chansed. The Europa was repainted after a refit in 1972. By that time Bremen was sold to Chandris. Have look on other sites to find a picture that she have repainted in the new colors, buth could not find one.


The two photo's are fake I made a long time ago, the first in Chandris colors is fake since she never had a blue line strip on her hull ( i don't think ). I could not find info about Bremen in new HAPAG colors, just that she was sold the same year or year before Europa was painted in new HAPAG colors so I guess she did not have the HAPAG colors but she dose like nice that way.


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posted 06-21-2004 09:35 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Regina Prima was built in 1939 as the PANAMA of the Panama Railroad Co.,
APL Acquired her in Jan 1957 and renamed President Hoover.
She was sold to Chandris on Dec 3, 1964 and renamed Regina.
Regina cruised for Chandris from 1966 until 1979, having been renamed Regina Prima in 1973 to avoid confusion with the Regina Magna.
Scrapped at Aliaga-Izmar, Turkey in Apr 1985.

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posted 06-22-2004 01:27 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Chandris operated Atlantis, Brittany, Carina, Favorita and Fantasia too.

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posted 06-22-2004 03:41 AM      Profile for AJL   Author's Homepage   Email AJL   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually, Chandris was supposed to operate the Favorita (ex Daressa of British India) but instead she was laid up for four years, until in 1968 sold to Singapore and became the Kim Hwa and was scrapped in 1974.

AJL


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posted 06-22-2004 04:13 AM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Carina was bult in 1929 as Princess Helene for the Canadian Pacific's Saint John-Digby run.
She was withdrawn in Feb 1963, She was sold in May and left Saint John on Jul 11 under the name Helene, to become a car ferry in the Mediterranean after being renamed Carina.


P.S. Please read as Purchased instead of Operated in my previous post.

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posted 06-22-2004 09:26 AM      Profile for rd77   Email rd77   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
May I advise all of you to go and get the great "The Chandris liners" by Bill Miller? It''s a great book. I bought it used on the Net and it wasn't that expensive either...
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