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Frosty 4
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posted 06-03-2011 10:09 AM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here in the US we have had floods,dought,tornadoes,heavy snow storms and now an E coli otbreak originated from northern Germany. Plus earthquakes and sunamis in other parts of the world.
It sure seems that some proficies(spelling) are coming to pass???
Hurricane season is now upon us. 9 major storms are forecast. I think a total of 16/17 ?
The Carribean and Gulf of Mexico are areas usually affected.
What are your thoughts??
Frosty 4

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dmwnc1
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posted 06-03-2011 11:06 AM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
With all due respect, I think you spend too much time thinking about it. This last 'joke' of forecasting the apocalypse and then changing the date mocks those who believe in what the Bible says "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." If it's going to happen, it's going to happen. Just be prepared whether you are agnostic, atheist, or believer.

See this thread for more entertainment and opposing points of view

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Linerrich
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posted 06-03-2011 11:55 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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As explained before, weather-related disasters are not something new, and not something new since the Bible was written. Weather has taken place since the formation of the planet, some 4 billion years ago (or was it 6,000 years?)

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-03-2011 02:43 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:

What are your thoughts??
Frosty 4

The 24/7 news cycle needs to fill their time and nothing gets viewers like a good disaster. The recent deadliest tornado was the worst since 1950. What was going on in 1950 compared to today? Also the highly advanced radar systems today pick up countless tornados that in the past would have gone un-noticed.

The nasty floods on the Mississippi are common-occuring every 30-40 years and far more people live on the flood plain (and coastal areas) today than in the past which results in more property damage-same goes for New Orleans as seen w/Hurricane Katrina. Most of the damage was in low level areas that were'nt built on 50-100 years ago. The higher French Quarter and Garden District received minimal damage.

Remember Hurricane Camille back in '69?? Hurricanes (some really nasty) are part of living on the gulf and earthquakes have been occuring since the creation of Earth. There difference is the 24-hour news channels weren't around to report on it.

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posted 06-03-2011 03:04 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Remember Hurricane Camille back in '69?? Hurricanes (some really nasty) are part of living on the gulf.

I lived in Hattiesburg, Mississippi (65 miles north of Gulfport) when Camille made landfall. I was 10 years old at the time and remember being terrified because it passed right over us during that awful night. The next day revealed things my young eyes could never have imagined. I still have newspapers from the 'event', and what followed, all tucked away in storage. I would not want to live through that again.


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posted 06-03-2011 04:10 PM      Profile for JohnHJ   Author's Homepage   Email JohnHJ   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To perhaps change the tenor of this thread, I believe the question was asked about how things might be effected in the Gulf of Mexico / Caribbean during the hurricane season. Yes, there was an entire other thread about end of the world, etc....and like many of you......no one knows.....just be prepared if it were to happen today, tomorrow or whenever.

So....back to my original point about changing the tenor of the thread....I wonder if there is any substantive weather data which shows a correlation in tornadic activity in north America to that of an increase in tropical cyclones? I know that water temperatures in the Gulf of Mexico are higher than normal which typically equates to quick developing storms when the conditions are correct.

All science aside....it is my personal believe that we will see a fairly significant Atlantic Hurricane season and unfortunately many posts about changes in itineraries from the cruise lines over the next few months. Any other thoughts related to the Atlantic hurricane season?


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Linerrich
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posted 06-03-2011 04:28 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnHJ:

All science aside....it is my personal believe that we will see a fairly significant Atlantic Hurricane season and unfortunately many posts about changes in itineraries from the cruise lines over the next few months. Any other thoughts related to the Atlantic hurricane season?

We are indeed in a cycle of higher Atlantic/Gulf hurricane activity. These cycles seem to run about 20 years or so (according to the past 120 years of recorded weather history for the area.) The current high-occurrance cycle began around 1995.

Some years are "El Niño" years and others are "La Niña" years, creating various jet streams which can shear the tops off hurricane formation. So that can negate the intensity of these storms, which are indeed stronger because of warmer waters. But we are no doubt seeing more Cat 4 and 5 hurricanes because of the warmth.

And as we are constantly reminded here in South Florida, right in the heart of Hurricane Alley: it only takes one storm to make it a bad year. I remember being in Miami in 1992: only 3 storms that year, which didn't even begin until late August. The name of that storm: Andrew.

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posted 06-07-2011 07:03 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
Hurricane season is now upon us. 9 major storms are forecast. I think a total of 16/17 ?
Sounds dreadful.

Until you look at the facts, and what those numbers actually mean: quieter than 2010, and close to the long-term average over the last 30 years.

Natural disasters are. unfortunately, a part of life. They always have been and they always will be.


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Frosty 4
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posted 06-07-2011 09:59 AM      Profile for Frosty 4   Email Frosty 4   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe it's the media that can report these occurances as they happen.
Today we had a mild earthquake in Southern Ill and Mo.
A prelude to a bigger one? New Madrid fault.
And the fires in Az and New Mexico.
It just seems we have had so many bad things happening.
F4

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quote:
Originally posted by Frosty 4:
It just seems we have had so many bad things happening.
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The 24/7 news channels will do doubt report even the smallest occurance. Lately I've turned off the 24-hour news channels as the non-stop negative reporting can make one depressed!


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quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:

The 24/7 news channels will do doubt report even the smallest occurance. Lately I've turned off the 24-hour news channels as the non-stop negative reporting can make one depressed!


And the news networks can "turn off" the events as quickly as they build them up, depending on the next thing in their news cycles.

When is the last time you heard anything about Japan, or the people in Tuscaloosa, or in North Carolina, etc? I know the media cannot dwell forever on one place, and they must move on, but even relatively big disasters can be pushed aside, depending upon the latest sex scandal, etc.

Rich


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