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eroller
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posted 07-28-2007 11:14 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is an artists rendering of the pool deck of the Four Seasons Residence Ship. I think it's stunning!

Ernie


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Jonathan
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posted 07-28-2007 11:26 PM      Profile for Jonathan   Author's Homepage   Email Jonathan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow its beautiful!! I hope it actually ends up looking like that.

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posted 07-29-2007 02:00 AM      Profile for mike sa   Author's Homepage   Email mike sa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do they have a website ?
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eroller
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posted 07-29-2007 09:34 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not much to it right now.

Ernie

http://www.fourseasons.com/private_residences/oceanresidences/


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posted 07-29-2007 11:33 AM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree the rendering is stunning but it will be interesting to see how the actual view compares to the artist redndering.

Many of the railings and dividers in the rendering appear to be almost invisible which gives the view a much more open appearance. Even if the railings are glass in the end, they will certainly be more noticable and change the view. I also note a seeming lack of supporting architecture betwen decks. Can they really build the ship with one deck "floating" above another?

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[ 07-29-2007: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]


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eroller
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posted 07-29-2007 11:46 AM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the entire concept is quite doable. The only "floating" decks I see are the relatively small extensions that cover a seating area on either side of the ship. They don't actually extend out very far and this would not be difficult to achieve with the proper support beams. I don't see anything else that "floats" on the drawling.

I also see all the railings, which are of course glass with wood railings. Nothing unusual there. There are some tall dividers forward but these are the only objects I see that might not look the same in the end product.

What I find missing is an outdoor staircase from the deck the pool is located on to the deck above. Other than that, it seems quite detailed and well thought out.

I see no reason this concept could not become a reality, especially on a luxury vessel such as Four Seasons.

Ernie


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PamM
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posted 07-29-2007 12:04 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's that seating area with the 'floating ceiling' which doesn't appear quite right. Why would there be lounge type chairs & sofas, with cushions, table lamps and artwork outside? It is almost as if this bit is a 'cutaway' but can't be as the reat of the deck would then not tie in.

I do think the pool area looks very nice indeed. It obviously won't turn out the same as the rendering, things never do, but anything near enough will be lovely. Shame I could never afford an apartment abord.

Pam


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eroller
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posted 07-29-2007 12:31 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM: It's that seating area with the 'floating ceiling' which doesn't appear quite right. Why would there be lounge type chairs & sofas, with cushions, table lamps and artwork outside?


Pam, luxurious outdoor seating areas are becoming quite popular both at hotels and onboard cruise ships. Oceania has the "pool deck lounge" for instance and even Princess has "the Sanctuary" on it's newest ships. I don't consider it far fetched at all, and pretty much everything can be made to be water proof and held in place if there are high winds.

I agree that nothing is ever exactly as the renderings depict, but I see no reason why Four Seasons could not duplicate what we see here in real life. I don't see anything so advanced that it can't be constructed on a ship. What I do see is a beautiful pool area that looks more like something you would find at a South Beach luxury hotel than a cruise ship.

Ernie


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posted 07-29-2007 01:15 PM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
It's that seating area with the 'floating ceiling' which doesn't appear quite right. Why would there be lounge type chairs & sofas, with cushions, table lamps and artwork outside? It is almost as if this bit is a 'cutaway' but can't be as the reat of the deck would then not tie in.


i've seen such furniture made for outdoors before, its surprising what they make that is weatherproof. The table lamps might not make the final cut and the artwork will probably be something more weather proof than is shown there.

It's a pretty impressive pool deck for sure....


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posted 07-29-2007 01:49 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looks like the designers have been shopping at Restoration Hardware. Nothing new but new for a ship.
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posted 07-29-2007 01:59 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by J.S.S.Normandie:

i've seen such furniture made for outdoors before, its surprising what they make that is weatherproof. The table lamps might not make the final cut and the artwork will probably be something more weather proof than is shown there.



There are a few residential furniture lines that offer this style of 'all weather' teak as well as good simulated wicker which is quite popular for contemporary outdoor settings like this. The outdoor table lamps have been available for several years and are a very nice touch for intimate seating areas.

I think more newbuilds (including the mass market lines) will go in this design direction both for interiors as well as poolside. The younger crowd (under 40) tends to prefer a clean modern look.


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posted 07-29-2007 03:14 PM      Profile for KenC   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It won't look much like that with a 20 knot wind blowing - which isn't unusual across the deck at sea Foliage doesn't like salt air much either!! Sorry - I do think it looks good though, just a bit unrealistic.

Ken


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eroller
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posted 07-29-2007 03:17 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by KenC: It won't look much like that with a 20 knot wind blowing - which isn't unusual across the deck at sea Foliage doesn't like salt air much either!! Sorry - I do think it looks good though, just a bit unrealistic. Ken


The foliage will probably be fake. It's amazing how real fake plants can look these days.

I do agree the umbrellas on the upper deck are unrealistic, at least while at sea. Too windy on most days.

Ernie


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PamM
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posted 07-29-2007 03:20 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I realise there are many types of outdoor furniture but to me this looks too much like indoor gone outdoor. Even HAL have the simulated [plastic] wicker chairs on their balconies. Many hotels have smart furniture and lamps, but they look as if they are made for outdoors. Princess' Sanctury areas still have what looks like outdoor furniture and is much more enclosed than this area which is almost completely open to the elements. Anyway, it's only a rendering and much will change; the furniture and accessories are I expect only in the head of the artist as yet. I hope they do keep all that 'seamless' glass too as it looks much better than railings and glass with supports every few feet.

Pam


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posted 07-29-2007 03:59 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
...I hope they do keep all that 'seamless' glass too as it looks much better than railings and glass with supports every few feet.

Pam


I'm not sure how they can actually do that, it would be incredibly expensive to use 'seamless' glass or even a plexiglass surface. They do get cracks and you have to be able to replace it in pieces. I am looking forward to the real deal...

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posted 07-29-2007 04:15 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It is of course an architectural rendering w/plenty of artisitc license. The end result if built will most likely be completely different.

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posted 07-29-2007 06:02 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
It is of course an architectural rendering w/plenty of artisitc license. The end result if built will most likely be completely different.

Yes - there are a lot of "details" which will make a difference. (e.g. the floor)

It looks a bit crowded to me.

Once more my complaint about the blocked forward facing deck space. I hope there are some other decks with an unobstructed view.


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posted 07-29-2007 06:27 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst: It looks a bit crowded to me.


Crowded? I thought it looked like one of the most spacious pool areas (and the largest pool) of just about any ship I know of.

Ernie


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posted 07-29-2007 06:37 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The pool level is O.K. - but the furniture on the deck above is a bit "dense" in some parts. (If they stay where they are and if people use them - and move them - it might be quite narrow at some places to pass by)

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quote:
Originally posted by Ernst: The pool level is O.K. - but the furniture on the deck above is a bit "dense" in some parts. (If they stay where they are and if people use them - and move them - it might be quite narrow at some places to pass by) [ 07-29-2007: Message edited by: Ernst ]


Remember, this ship will carry very few people. I think it's about the size of The World and there will only be 112 residences. No doubt it will be one of the most spacious ships in the world.

Ernie


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posted 07-29-2007 08:04 PM      Profile for joe at travelpage   Author's Homepage   Email joe at travelpage   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here are a few photo's from the builder's model. Maybe they are older than the artist's renderings:


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posted 07-29-2007 08:38 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Joe. I don't think this will be a pretty ship on the exterior (just like I don't think THE WORLD is pretty), but if the pool area turns out anything like the rendering I will be impressed.

Can you tell I like pools???

Ernie


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quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
Thanks Joe. I don't think this will be a pretty ship on the exterior (just like I don't think THE WORLD is pretty), but if the pool area turns out anything like the rendering I will be impressed.

Can you tell I like pools???

Ernie


Absolutely. I do too and I would love to see a ship that looks like the artist's rendering.

The more I revisit the issue though, I wonder what the real status of this project is. Their web site used to have detailed deck plans for the ship (...see Google cache) and it was originally scheduled for delivery in Fall of 2007. Now there is no mention on the Aker web site. Anyone know the status?

Joe at TravelPage.com


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Wow that is a nice pool.

Now we just need that on a regular cruise ship!


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posted 07-30-2007 08:23 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eroller:


Remember, this ship will carry very few people. I think it's about the size of The World and there will only be 112 residences. No doubt it will be one of the most spacious ships in the world.

Ernie


She certainly will be a very spacious vessel. The pool area is of course more than large enough for the small number of passengers and if the remove the one or the other lounge chair it should be fine.


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