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gaz hants
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posted 11-11-2006 04:39 PM      Profile for gaz hants   Email gaz hants   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
as i was dreaming about winning the euro millions lottery i thought i would see how much it cost to join the world of residensea.

one of the cheapest 'studios' would be usd 825,000 plus annual fees of usd 72,000

so if i bought for one year and sold for what i paid for it, the cost of a round the world cruise would be usd 72,000 for 2

the questions are these:
is it reasonable to assume prices of suites stay constant?
are there any more fees on top of those mentioned or are they per person?


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Magic Pipe
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posted 11-11-2006 04:53 PM      Profile for Magic Pipe     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't think you actually buy a condo on these ships, I think that they are long term leases. With that being the case, one would think that the value would decline over time, unless there was a very strong demand.
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Cunard Fan
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posted 11-11-2006 08:24 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I heard that it just a long term lease. I think its a fifty year lease.
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eroller
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posted 11-11-2006 08:29 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No need to settle for the WORLD. New on the horizon is Residential Cruise Line and the MAGELLAN.
www.residentialcruiseline.com

Also are the Four Seasons Ocean residences.
www.oceanresidences.com

Both have elaborate websites and beautiful ship designs (especially MAGELLAN) but if they actually get built is anyones guess.

Ernie


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PamM
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posted 11-12-2006 04:19 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting idea gaz hants.. but you can do a WC with P&O for 2 for $72,000 which would also include all your meals etc & housekeeping [is that included on The World?].

Also you would need to complete the purchase for the exact time you wanted to board, and find a purchaser to take it off you on the day of departure. Imagine the hassle with solicitors, their fees and all the rest of it. Then there is the loss of interest on your outlay of $825,000. Some return would be nice, but with the reduction in the length of lease, not likely [will she really last 50 years?].

Pam


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feargus
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posted 11-12-2006 04:21 AM      Profile for feargus   Email feargus   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I will have to check with my wife but i'm pretty sure the world is sold out. It took some time to get them all sold so I wonder if the other ones will ever be built, i can't see it unless there is a dramatic upturn in demand or they come up with a much better business model. I like the idea it and if i had lots and lots of money i would probably go for it.
i did spend a total of about 2 months on the world traveling with my wife on the world a couple of years ago (she used to be the resort controller) and while it can be a bit quiet onboard it is a nice way to cruise.

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gaz hants
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posted 11-12-2006 07:24 AM      Profile for gaz hants   Email gaz hants   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
according to their website there are a few for sale, ranging from doubles to 3/4 bedrooms.

Click here

my numbers failed to show, so my world won't be including residensea for the forseeable future.

i know there are cheaper world cruises but they last for 90 days for so. the world takes a year to get around with days on end in port.
if the lease is quite long it shouldn't devalue too much.


also do some years have higher maintenance costs than others (like a car service)?

[ 11-12-2006: Message edited by: joe at travelpage ]


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feargus
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posted 11-12-2006 10:22 AM      Profile for feargus   Email feargus   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, i was slightly wrong. all apartments are sold from the original company, the ones available now are being sold by the apartments present owners.
for the maintenance the cost is spread over the years with a standard payment each year. she has been dry docked once in Portugal and is due to dock next year in the bahamas. No major items needed any attention, the resident use this time to change the decor etc of of their apartments. the kind of money that is floating around on there i doubt if they worry too much about the costs of maintaining the thing. not to say they have unlimited amounts of course but the costs of keeping their home away from their other homes wont bother them. it will of course be interesting to see her in 50 years if she lasts that long and if i last that long, she will be a classic by then...i probably wont be!

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PamM
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posted 11-12-2006 10:44 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So the annual fee quoted does include food and beverages. That apartment looks very small though, not really 'living' accommodation, more just for vacations? No hot tub on that balcony

Pam


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Cambodge
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posted 11-13-2006 07:23 AM      Profile for Cambodge   Email Cambodge   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lordy that cabin is narrow! It would be like living in a bowling alley! But to the owners of multiple dwellings worldwide it would probably suffice.

[ 11-13-2006: Message edited by: Cambodge ]


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Ernst
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posted 11-13-2006 08:17 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cambodge:
Lordy that cabin is narrow! [..]

This phenomenon is sadly not limited to "The World". It seems to be the consequence of being limited to outside cabins - the ships length is becoming the limiting parameter and the only way cabins can grow is becoming a tunnel. Very unpleasent indeed.


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