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Topic: Cruise Ship or Prison Ship?

PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 08-06-2005 05:59 PM

Which ship is the question?

Pam

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Linerdan
First Class Passenger
Member # 4719

posted 08-06-2005 06:24 PM

Dont know the ship but it could be:

Grand Prison
Queen Prison
Prison of the seas
Prison-dam
Voyager Prison
Sea Prison
Pacfic Prison
Royal Prison
Prisonlty (Carnival)
Sun Prison
Legend of the Prison

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 08-06-2005 06:51 PM

A NCL ship?

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6263866
First Class Passenger
Member # 5115

posted 08-07-2005 03:00 AM

Umm.....what is that?? Looks like a pen for holding livestock.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 08-07-2005 05:11 AM

You may be right

I think it's to enable those in the brig to have the occasional dunking. This ship has one either side, and her name is appropriate.

Pam

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bmajor
First Class Passenger
Member # 1754

posted 08-07-2005 05:20 AM

To me it looks like a platform that would be lowered over the side,to create some sort of gangway.

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MOORHOUSE
First Class Passenger
Member # 5741

posted 08-07-2005 06:43 AM

On first inspection I would agree that it is for carrying livestock, but it has holes in the bottom of it?

It doesn't look permanent (surely it would be painted?) so I have no idea.

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 08-07-2005 08:30 AM

So, this is cruising on a Livestock Carrier?

Another clue:-

Pam

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 08-07-2005 08:47 AM

ISLAND ESCAPE?

Ernie

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 08-07-2005 09:13 AM

Indeed Ernie.. talk about ugly; I assume just the usual maintenance platforms?, but they seem to suit a ship named 'ESCAPE'

They are just fwd of the funnel either side above the windshields as below. The one above is to starboard taken from inside the WTC.

More IE pics from the Barcelona Cable Car in this Gallery. New Flamenco looks very pretty alongside IE!

Pam

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MOORHOUSE
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Member # 5741

posted 08-07-2005 09:21 AM

Ugly, ugly ship, but I really like that pic!

Lighting is very nice, but those maintenence platforms still look awful.

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eroller
First Class Passenger
Member # 1649

posted 08-07-2005 12:15 PM

Back when this ship was VIKING SERENADE I sailed on her at least three times, maybe four. She is not very attractive but I did have some very good times on her (there was a lot of drinking on those 3-day cruises!). Anyway, the ship did not have tenders back then nor did she have that platform.

I notice now that the ship carries her own tenders. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that platform actually gets submerged and is used as some type of floating tender platform. It's the only reason I can think of as to why it's not painted white, why it's so deep, and why all those holes are in it.

Ernie

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Jonathan
First Class Passenger
Member # 5201

posted 08-07-2005 12:30 PM

Maybe those platforms are for servicing the under side of the ship like people get ontop where there is a hatch and climb down in.

Jonathan

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shipcafe
First Class Passenger
Member # 3959

posted 08-07-2005 12:59 PM

Thank you for bringing back some memories!

I worked aboard Viking Serenade from October of 1998 through April of 1999. It was a long six months but I met some of the most dynamic people on that contract and still keep in touch with them to date. I should really scan some crew photos from that contract.

Unsightly? Perhaps. She does hold a lot of good times and memories for many, though, I'm sure.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 08-07-2005 05:05 PM

I tought about her but I excluded her as I believed she has no tenders.
Pam, did you see any other facilities for children?

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PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 08-07-2005 05:34 PM

Oh indeed, they had to get out of this one first!

Pam

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Cruise Lover
First Class Passenger
Member # 5633

posted 08-07-2005 07:06 PM

Well sure it isnt the prettiest ship in the world, but it is nice. I mean it isnt the Queen Mary or Aquitania. it is no Ocean Liner but you have to admit, the ship is remotly OK. Plus you should never gudge a ship by the way they look (LOL, yet remotley true). Ships do have feelings when you think about it

. Hey who knew

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Ocean Liners
First Class Passenger
Member # 4013

posted 08-07-2005 09:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
Back when this ship was VIKING SERENADE I sailed on her at least three times, maybe four. She is not very attractive but I did have some very good times on her (there was a lot of drinking on those 3-day cruises!). Anyway, the ship did not have tenders back then nor did she have that platform.
I notice now that the ship carries her own tenders.
Ernie

Whilst she was sailing on the 7-day Mexican Riviera Cruise to Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan and Cabo San Lucas in the early 90's, the lifeboats were used to carry passengers in Cabo San Lucas.

Viking Serenade(ex-Stardancer) in Cabo San Lucas.

At later years, RCCL advertised that On the 3-night cruise, you will anchor in the beautiful harbour in Ensenada on the Baja Peninsula.
The 4-night cruise adds Santa Catatalina Island to the itinerary.

Viking Serenade fitted with platform in her later days (?)

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Ocean Liners
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posted 08-08-2005 12:53 AM

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eroller
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posted 08-08-2005 01:04 AM

Interesting ... so she did have that platform as VIKING SERENADE. I could have sworn she didn't, at least not during my sailings. I tend to notice odd details like that. I will have to dig out some of my old photos. Mind you if it was added during her final years as a Royal Caribbean ship then my pictures would not show it. My last cruise onboard the SERENADE was probably 1992.

Ernie

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Ocean Liners
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posted 08-08-2005 01:11 AM

Catalina Island official postcard (photo Burney Ramming) of Viking Serenade from Simplon.

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eroller
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Member # 1649

posted 08-08-2005 01:20 AM

So has anyone figured out exactly what the contraption is used for? I thought it was a tender platform but maybe it's something else entirely?

Ernie

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Waynaro
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posted 08-08-2005 01:39 AM

quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
So has anyone figured out exactly what the contraption is used for? I thought it was a tender platform but maybe it's something else entirely?
Ernie

Maybe it serves no purpose other than improves ship's stabability?

In the last postcard that Ocean Liner posted, you can see the tenders "park" right next to the ship at midship.

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Ocean Liners
First Class Passenger
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posted 08-08-2005 02:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
Interesting ... so she did have that platform as VIKING SERENADE. I could have sworn she didn't, at least not during my sailings. I tend to notice odd details like that. I will have to dig out some of my old photos. Mind you if it was added during her final years as a Royal Caribbean ship then my pictures would not show it. My last cruise onboard the SERENADE was probably 1992.
Ernie

The photo, scanned from 1991 brochure, shown gangway and platform just below the funnel.

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Ocean Liners
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posted 08-08-2005 04:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by eroller:
So has anyone figured out exactly what the contraption is used for? I thought it was a tender platform but maybe it's something else entirely?
Ernie

This photo shows what the contraption is used for.
Island Escape at anchor off Portofino.

Island Escape docked at Barcelona.

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