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cruceromania
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posted 05-24-2005 03:46 AM      Profile for cruceromania   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here you can see the lengthening process:

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Seatrade insider news:

Enchantment lengthening is underway
23/5/2005
When Royal Caribbean last lengthened a ship 25 years ago, the project took three months. Stretching Enchantment of the Seas will take just 31 days.
The process is underway at Keppel Verolme Shipyard in Rotterdam. Enchantment will be both the largest cruise ship ever lengthened and the first to be lengthened in a drydock, according to Carl-Gustaf Rotkirch, vp sales - cruise ships for Aker Finnyards. The drydock method is 'a better way. You can do it faster and safer and you can be more precise,' he told Seatrade Insider on site at Rotterdam.

The €45m project is the first major endeavor for Aker Finnyards' new Lifecycle Services division. Keppel Verolme, a seasoned oil platform builder and repair yard with one of the world's largest drydocks, is serving as subcontractor.

Although Enchantment's arrival in Rotterdam was delayed one day by stormy seas on its Atlantic crossing, the process since then has gone 'like clockwork,' said Peter Fetten, vp newbuilding for Royal Caribbean.

The cutting of the ship is expected to be completed tonight after six days of work using gas and oxygen torches and circular saws to slice through more than 600 meters (1,969 linear feet) of steel. In the next phase, of approximately five days, the sections will be positioned. First, the 10,265-metric-ton (11,315-ton) foreship will be skidded forward, then the 2,666-metric-ton (2,939-ton) midsection will be moved into alignment. The midbody will be skidded backwards and then the foreship will move back.

Laser technology is ensuring precise alignment. In fact, the maximum deviation is calculated at only three milimeters (one-tenth of an inch), said Keppel Verolme md Harold Linssen. The final step, estimated at two weeks, is rejoining. More than 1,100 cables, 120 pipes and 60 air ducts will be reattached.

Those involved in the lengthening singled out no one particular challenge but referred to the project's overall complexity and the teamwork required. Enchantment's new midbody was built at Aker Finnyards in Turku and loaded onto a barge for the 2,320-km (1,252-nautical-mile) tow to Rotterdam. Using eight hydraulic jacking towers, heavy lifting specialists ALE Lastra moved the midsection from the barge. ALE Lastra also developed the special skidding system to shift the ship sections.

'There's a lot of logistics and very challenging engineering and very complicated and complex heavy lifting and moving of objects,' said Harri Kulovaara, evp maritime for Royal Caribbean. However, he added, 'I'm sleeping well at the moment.'

Aker Finnyards has built 11 ships for Royal Caribbean, including Enchantment in 1997, and this will be its third lengthening for RCCL. In addition, three Freedom-class newbuilds are under contract. Referring to the Enchantment stretch, Aker Finnyards president Yrjo Julin predicted 'another "wow" for Royal Caribbean, we hope.'

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posted 05-24-2005 11:42 AM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
interesting process.......and although it seems such a straight forward task...it really isnt.....its a rather complicated process....actually i thought drydocking then cutting the ship then floating them and tow away then position the midsection then drain the dock...and weld the 3 pieces together was what was done b4 but i guess wen u think about it and know the limitations of out technologyi guess it is feasable doing it toatally in the dry dock.
thanx for the update cruceromania.
cruiseshipluver

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Ernst
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posted 05-24-2005 12:16 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wasn`t the Pride of America the first ship, where the "halves" of the ship have been moved apart in the dock and not afloat? (Because they would not have been floating in a stable position independently?)
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posted 05-24-2005 01:06 PM      Profile for RANGERVR6178   Email RANGERVR6178   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ernst, that was the Disney Magic and Wonder.
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Ernst
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quote:
Originally posted by RANGERVR6178:
Ernst, that was the Disney Magic and Wonder.

No. The Disney ships have not been stretched - their forward and aft section just has been built at different places. (and I guess they have been position to each other being afloat) - to put it this way: I am pretty sure the PoA has been stretched in dry dock - I am not 100% sure wheter this hasn`t been done with anohter ship before.


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posted 05-24-2005 02:27 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Lengthening of Enchantment reached the news today with some shots of the ship in dry-dock.
The captain seemed to be very excited. Unfortunately no shots of the new addition and the futuristic wings.

Onno


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posted 05-24-2005 02:31 PM      Profile for Beezo   Author's Homepage   Email Beezo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 


I think Ernst is right, if you look at this pic (taken from lloydwerft.com, the yard building NCLA's Pride of America) you can see that the ship is in a floating drydock...

~Brian


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posted 05-24-2005 02:53 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I believe Ernst is right. But technically POA was not a "ship" at the time of its lengthening. it was just a partially completed hull. So, technically Enchantment is the first, and to be fair it is much more challenging to lengthen a fully built cruise ship rather than a bare partial hull.
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posted 05-24-2005 03:00 PM      Profile for RobHolland   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Onno,

In which news program you saw a interview with the Captain? I only saw the RTL Morning news with a small item.

Kind regards

Rob


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posted 05-24-2005 03:03 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Fairsky:
I believe Ernst is right. But technically POA was not a "ship" at the time of its lengthening. it was just a partially completed hull. So, technically Enchantment is the first, and to be fair it is much more challenging to lengthen a fully built cruise ship rather than a bare partial hull.

Why shoud it be more challenging? The differences would be the cables and pipes, which I guess were not around abouard Pride of America. (this is for sure a lot of work) The hull was not completed, but the finished parts were not much smaller than e.g. the Enchantment of the Seas, so I guess the cutting, positioning etc. was the same.


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Looking at the photos on the Lloyd Werft website, it appears Pride of America was cut and a new mid section constructed in the gap that was created using typical "building blocks".

There was not a pre-assembled midsection moved in the drydock and inserted as with other stretchings. This is another difference between POA and Enchantment projects.


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posted 05-24-2005 04:56 PM      Profile for cruiseshipluver   Author's Homepage   Email cruiseshipluver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
where were the Disney Magic and Wonder built?...Fincanterii?? or one of the Werft yards?
cruiseshipluver

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quote:
Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:
where were the Disney Magic and Wonder built?...Fincanterii?? or one of the Werft yards?
cruiseshipluver

Disney ships were built at Fincantieri.

Gordon


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quote:
Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:
where were the Disney Magic and Wonder built?...Fincanterii?? or one of the Werft yards?
cruiseshipluver

Werft is the german word for yard. I guess you mean the Meyer Werft.


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posted 05-24-2005 05:23 PM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Rob, it was in “het jeugdjournaal” . The interview with the captain was not that major. The news was introduced by comparing it with pimp my ride only not with a car but with a ship.

Here is the link to the site of “het jeugdjournaal”
In the pink field with camera symbol you need to click the “Laatste uitzending” link to see the news film. Unfortunately you need to watch the entire news bulletin in order to see the Enchantment part.

http://www.nos.nl/jeugdjournaal/voorpagina/index.html

All the best,

Onno


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quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:

Werft is the german word for yard. I guess you mean the Meyer Werft.


lol, really???? the things u learn on this forum....There is LLOYD *YARD* too that why is said one of them
cruiseshipluver


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quote:
Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:

lol, really???? the things u learn on this forum....There is LLOYD *YARD* too that why is said one of them
cruiseshipluver


....and many, many others.
In contrast to Meyer the Lloyd Werft is not building cruise ships.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:

....and many, many others.
In contrast to Meyer the Lloyd Werft is not building cruise ships.

[ 05-25-2005: Message edited by: Ernst ]


so LLOYD is focused on repair and refitting or conversion then???
cruiseshipluver


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quote:
Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:

so LLOYD is focused on repair and refitting or conversion then???
cruiseshipluver


see the hompage of the Lloyd Werft for detailed informations


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http://www.aadhoogesteger.nl/cruiseschepen/verlench13.html

Photos of the Enchantment cut in half.


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posted 05-25-2005 05:16 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On the local Rotterdam broadcast corp. They say that tomorrow they begin the welding the stern section and the new midt section together.

After the lengtening the Enchantment would be 302 meters long. She would not fit in the Panama canal.
There was talk that the bow would be rejecteble but RCCL have desided that this job would be not done at this moment.

Almost everyday there is an report on this t.v. station. Very interesting to wach.

Greetings Ben.


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Keppel Verlome are moving fast......that fascinates me how they can move a midsection like that with out having to float the pieces to get them together...the middle section is on some sort of a roller syestem??? or a jack?...that they slipped it in so nicely????

P.S- thanks for the link Ernst.
cruiseshipluver


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quote:
Originally posted by Maasdam:
On the local Rotterdam broadcast corp. They say that tomorrow they begin the welding the stern section and the new midt section together.

After the lengtening the Enchantment would be 302 meters long. She would not fit in the Panama canal.
There was talk that the bow would be rejecteble but RCCL have desided that this job would be not done at this moment.

Almost everyday there is an report on this t.v. station. Very interesting to wach.

Greetings Ben.


you were talking about the swivled bow which would hinge up in the air wen she entered the locks but as u said i dont think RCI is not bothering with this idea anymore.
cruiseshipluver


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quote:
Originally posted by cruiseshipluver:
that fascinates me how they can move a midsection like that with out having to float the pieces to get them together...the middle section is on some sort of a roller syestem??? or a jack?...that they slipped it in so nicely????
I've read that the yard had worked with some outside company to develop a system which allowed the yard to roll the forward section of the ship away from the aft section, and then the new section into place, without having to flood the dock and float the pieces. This allows them to work faster (and presumably, therefore, cheaper).

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Gday all
Hope this dosent sound like a stuipd question:
When a ship is lengthen and more cabins/suites are added , do they have to renumber all the cabins again to keep them in running order?
Regards Linerdan.

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