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Andy
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posted 01-09-2004 05:13 AM      Profile for Andy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For those of you who are interested in the casino ships in Hong Kong, here is the new livery of Omar II, formerly the Golden Odyssey. She was reported sold as the Omar III (ex-Sun Viking) started sailing.

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rd77
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posted 01-09-2004 07:38 AM      Profile for rd77   Email rd77   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is a lot more sensible looking than the previous two liveries. I understand her name has not been changed?
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Waynaro
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posted 01-09-2004 11:13 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks Andy for the picture. Looks nice. What company is she under now? According to Maritime Transportation Consultant, she is listed for sale...
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PamM
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posted 01-09-2004 04:06 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is this the ship that had all the colourful zig zags on her previously? Or maybe I am thinking of another..
Pam

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Waynaro
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posted 01-09-2004 06:01 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
PamM posted:
Is this the ship that had all the colourful zig zags on her previously?
Yes, this is the ship you are thinking of...

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PamM
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posted 01-09-2004 07:39 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, she certainly has a colourful life. I just went and found the old thread I was thinking of.. and here's a pic you found before & one of Gundam X's


I think I prefer the bottom one
Pam

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eroller
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posted 01-09-2004 08:03 PM      Profile for eroller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She is a smart looking ship, no matter what livery she is painted in. I always loved this little ship and Royal Cruise Line. Too bad NCL got their hands on them.

I believe her capacity was exactly that of a chartered 747. One flight from California and you have a full ship!

Ernie


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Waynaro
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posted 01-10-2004 12:01 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Speaking of OMARs, Gundam X Divider, do you have any recent shots of the OMAR III? Thanks in advance.
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Ðraikar
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posted 01-10-2004 12:58 AM      Profile for Ðraikar   Email Ðraikar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I like this paint colors the best (don't know why but its nice)....


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cruiseny
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posted 01-10-2004 01:24 AM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ðraikar:
I like this paint colors the best (don't know why but its nice)...

I don't really care for any of them but I agree that of the three it's the most attractive.

What I really wonder about are her interiors - they looked very attractive as GOLDEN ODYSSEY and seem to have stayed pretty much intact through her career with Royal Cruise Line and Deutsche Seetouristik/Hapag-Lloyd... So I have to wonder what her new owners did?

Knowing typical Asian casino ship owners I suspect they butchered her but it would be interesting to know for sure. The original interiors featured great wall decorations by Antonios Katzourakis (who was not actually the designer of the interiors, but just an artist at the time; the actual design was done by Tage Wandborg who was the ship's naval architect) and excellent designer furniture - one lounge had Eero Saarinen "Tulip" chairs, the reception lobby had black leather and chrome sofas by Le Corbusier, and so on. This was not particularly uncommon for ships of her period but what is important is that it was intact at least until very recently where most of her contemporaries had their '70s modern interiors torn out in the '80s and '90s in favor of much more insipid stuff.


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Andy
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posted 01-10-2004 08:57 AM      Profile for Andy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Omar II is not sailing currently... she was reported sold to a Macau company (note the four Chinese words on her hull), but her name and owner are still listed as "Omar II" and "Conning Shipping" at this moment, as seen from the Marine Department.

The Omar III is sailing now, here is a photo showing her at the Ocean Terminal:

And her funnel:

She docked at Ocean Terminal on 29-12-2003 as for the official launch of the ship. I visited the ship on that day and I will post some interior photos here later.

[ 01-10-2004: Message edited by: Gundam X Divider ]


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cruiseny
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posted 01-10-2004 12:55 PM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is all that scaffolding on her funnel permanent? It's hideous!

Anyhow, the interior photos would be much appreciated. You wouldn't happen to have any of OMAR II as well, would you?


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Waynaro
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posted 01-10-2004 01:04 PM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks GXD for the picture. Like Cruiseny said, the funnel is quite hideous. Can't wait for the interiors!
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Michael534
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posted 01-10-2004 01:15 PM      Profile for Michael534   Email Michael534   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi,

At first I thought the scaffolding was for the painting of the dark stripes on the funnel. But if you look carefully you can see that the scaffolding is red! I think they are LIGHTS! Yikes!

Michael534


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PamM
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posted 01-10-2004 02:09 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, hideous. I too thought it was scaffolding, but agree with Mike, it seems like there are little dots along between the strips.. light bulbs for a sparkling nightime display?
Pam

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Andy
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posted 01-10-2004 11:38 PM      Profile for Andy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What I heard about her is that some lights on her (I don't know whether that is on her funnel or her ship name on the top deck, or both) will change colour from time to time at night. Some people described her funnel to be rather similar to that of STAR CRUISES
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sslewis
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posted 01-11-2004 03:49 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cruiseny,
my godness, the scaffolding looks like a version of Cunard.
Is this what Carnival plans for Asia operations?
Poor Sun Viking, she still have her funnel-lounge from what must be an enraged RCCL!
ssLewis, missing the yachting days of cruises

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Andy
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posted 01-12-2004 12:55 AM      Profile for Andy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This ship is not Carnival owned - you can just refer her as a casino ship in Hong Kong.

Her owner seems to be working hard to become a normal cruise line. The ship is now operated by "Asia Cruises", or actually "Asia Cruiser Club". Recently I found their website here. You can find the info of Omar II here, but no info on Omar III yet. The funnel lounge is still open now, as seen from my photos in another post.

[ 01-12-2004: Message edited by: Gundam X Divider ]


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Waynaro
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posted 01-12-2004 01:17 AM      Profile for Waynaro   Email Waynaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nice link GXD. Do you know anything about the CAPTAIN OMAR?
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cruiseny
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posted 01-12-2004 01:31 AM      Profile for cruiseny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Gundam X Divider - thanks for that link. The interior photos of OMAR II are fascinating. Reception looks pretty much original, but otherwise it seems most of the original decor is gone - the lounge with the Saarinen chairs is now a karaoke room, though the original ceiling treatment and light fixture - seemingly "jazzed up" with colored bulbs - appear intact. Similar in other areas of the ship. I wonder if any of the original Katzourakis murals remain?

Anyhow she looks to actually be in good condition, with relatively tame interiors and it certainly appears as though the owners have put a good deal of money in her. Same with OMAR III from your photos, though that funnel is hideous.


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Andy
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posted 01-12-2004 05:45 AM      Profile for Andy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Keitaro:
Nice link GXD. Do you know anything about the CAPTAIN OMAR?

Well someone told me she was in Shanghai two years ago... I am not sure how and where she is now.


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rd77
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posted 01-12-2004 01:33 PM      Profile for rd77   Email rd77   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"I believe her capacity was exactly that of a chartered 747. One flight from California and you have a full ship!"

I have heard that too. I believe the GOLDEN ODYSSEY has a connection with the Tenerife air disaster of 1977, as the passengers on one of the two 747's involved were either heading for the GOLDEN ODYSSEY or just came off the ship. can anyone confirm this?


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Michael534
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posted 01-12-2004 09:05 PM      Profile for Michael534   Email Michael534   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, rd77 it true. I remember when the accident happened. It was horrible. After that cruise passengers on chartered flights were put on different flights. I don't remember all the details right now, though I know I have info in my files. I could look it up if you are interrested. Let me know.

Michael534


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posted 01-12-2004 10:07 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's the link to the article on the worst Air Disaster here

quote:

On March 27, 1977, a terrorist bombing, heavy fog, a slight problem with the communications system at a critical moment, and an impatient senior pilot combined to create what remains today the single most deadly accident in aviation history.

Canary Islands have long been a destination for European tourists with its resorts rivaling the best of the Mediterranean. By 70s the islands had also become a destination for Americans wishing to begin Mediterranean cruises. On the morning of March 27th 1977, two planes full of such tourists departed for Los Palmas Airport - one of two major airports in the Canary Islands.

The first plane was a KLM Royal Dutch Airlines 747 operating as flight KL4805 on behalf of the Holland International Travel Group. Piloting the plane was KLM's chief 747 training captain Jacob Veldhuyzen van Zantent, who also had been featured in KLM advertising - including the in-flight magazine aboard flight KL4805. He had been with KLM since 1947 and had trained almost all other KLM 747 pilots and co-pilots. This charter flight was a rare one for van Zantent as he had been spending much more time training other pilots than flying.

Captain van Zantent departed Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport that morning at 9.31 a.m. local time carrying 235 mostly young passengers and a crew of 14. The passengers were mostly Dutch and young and included three babies and 48 children. Also on board were four Germans, two Australians, and four Americans.

The second plane was a Pan Am 747, which had departed Los Angeles the night before for the Canary Islands with a refueling stop in New York. The flight had been delayed an hour and a half in L.A. and took five hours to make it to New York. 380 passengers were on board and most of them were retirees eager to board the Royal Cruise Line's ship Golden Odyssey for a 12-day Mediterranean cruise.


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The COLUMBUS CARAVELLE (CAPTAIN OMAR) has been chartered to a Greek company wanting to use her as a 5-star luxury yacht-cruiser. This deal was concluded after Odessa Cruise Company cancelled the charter with Rome Holidays which did not bring in the expected results.
The latest information I've got is that the ship either is underway to Greece for refit or is still laid up in Asia waiting for repositioning.

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