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{Monarch}
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posted 08-01-2005 05:37 PM      Profile for {Monarch}   Email {Monarch}   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello, everybody!

I'm interested in planning my first cruise for August 2006. For the last few hours I've been researching ship ratings and various threads in these forums. Although I have a feeling that this is all pretty basic stuff, I have some first-time questions to ask before I book it.


1) I'd prefer to cruise aboard a ship that is abundant in pools, hot tubs and saunas. Unlike most of the Holland America lines, I'd prefer fun over ritz and luxery. Considering that many of the Royal Caribbean ships have more of a 'fun for all ages' feel, do you think that the popular Adventure of the Seas is just what I'm looking for? If not, than are there any similar (but better) ships that I should consider?

2) My dream is to travel to a nice tropical hot-spot, but there's just one problem: I live in Washington State. As many of these cruises depart from southern California and Florida, I'm a little concerned about transportation. When I look at price quotes on sites like Orbitz.com, are the prices including airfares, or am I supposed to buy those tickets separetely?

3) As I said, I'd love to go to a tropical paradise. Originaly I thought of going to the south Caribbean area, but are there any other destinations that are commonly enjoyed more (besides Hawaii)?

4) Would I be much better off booking my trip via a travel agent than a website? Now that the net is such a mainstream afair, is it the most efficient (and cheapest) way to do it these days?

5) As far as Royal Caribbean goes, are activities like going to the day-spa and ice skating free, or are they highly priced? In general, are most things aboard the cruise completely free (i.e. eating, swimming, rock climbing, etc.)?


Thank you all for helping me with preparing my first, most exciting vacation yet... I look forward to taking the plunge!


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Green
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posted 08-01-2005 06:07 PM      Profile for Green     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Monarch - We're good at answering questions on this board but let's answer your 4th question for now:

Suggest you visit 2 or 3 local land based travel agencies and pick up a selection of cruise Line brochures. Mention that you are researching for 12 months hence.

A good TA will ask you questions and from your answers will make suggestions. Hopefully one TA will 'click' with you and you'll be comfortable airing your questions and expectations.

Don't commit to anything. Take time to study the brochures you have acquired and then return to the agent you 'clicked' with.

I'd definitely advise staying away from Net agencies at this point.

Good Luck


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dmwnc1
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posted 08-01-2005 06:59 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Monarch!

A question you might want to ask yourself is how 'active' do you plan on being during your cruise? Very? Moderately, or not all? I know you asked specifically about certain amenities, but would you use and enjoy using amenities such as roller-blade tracks, ice skating rinks, and rock-clinmbing walls? I've been on these ships and consider myself fit and somewhat in good physical shape, but never used those facilities. Spent more time in the pools, Spa, and Fitness center.

You asked for advice on bigger or 'better' ships. The AdventureOTS and her sisters are as big as they get (if you dont count the QM2), but have you considered any of the Conquest-class ships from Carnival Cruise Lines? They may be worth looking into also.

Or maybe one of the Grand-class ships from Princess Cruises? Both RCCL and CCL have departures from Texas and/or New Orleans too.

Most website cruise prices will not include airfare unless you program that request into the price matrix. If you do fly from the west coast to Florida consider flying over a day ahead of time and getting a hotel close to the port. Get yourself time-adjusted and to allow for any unforseen travel delays. And compare prices between websites and land-based agents, but dont shop so many you confuse yourself. I know of a couple of very reliable major web-based agencies that can offer great deals. Make sure with any web-based agency you can actually 'talk' to and book with a human, dont just book online. Some online booking engines may have stiff penalties for cancellations and changes even if you are booking a year in advance. Do a google search for any 'cruise deals' and see what pops up. You may hit a gold-vein of options.

And how much time do you want onboard and at sea to be able to enjoy those amenities that you are looking for? A Southern caribbean cruise typically spends a lot of time in ports of call. If you need more time at sea and time in the pool/jacuzzi, try a Eastern or Western Caribbean cruise. But check out the itineraries closely too.


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Globaliser
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posted 08-02-2005 05:14 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by {Monarch}:
2) My dream is to travel to a nice tropical hot-spot ...
3) As I said, I'd love to go to a tropical paradise. Originaly I thought of going to the south Caribbean area, but are there any other destinations that are commonly enjoyed more (besides Hawaii)?

I don't want to be the wet blanket here, but can I just make one point? If your travel aim is to go to a nice tropical paradise, you're probably better off just flying to a Caribbean or other tropical island and having a land-based holiday.

Don't be seduced by the plentiful glossy photographs in the cruise brochures of deserted palm-fringed beaches etc. The reality of a cruise is that you are mostly on the ship, and usually there with a lot of other people, in the middle of the ocean with its often-indifferent and always-unpredictable weather. Time in port is limited, and most shore-side places are crowded on cruise ship days. The discrepancy between brochure promise and real life is probably most marked in respect of the cruise lines' "private islands", but there is a general structural incompatibility between "tropical paradise" and "cruise holiday".

I love cruising, and I love being on ships. But I do see a lot of people who haven't cruised before and go on board expecting something very different from that which is actually delivered - and ending up being very disappointed however good the delivery.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 08-02-2005 05:46 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by {Monarch}:

1)...do you think that the popular Adventure of the Seas is just what I'm looking for? If not, than are there any similar (but better) ships that I should consider?

One of the RCI five 'Voyager' class sound right for you.

2) I'm a little concerned about transportation. When I look at price quotes on sites like Orbitz.com, are the prices including airfares, or am I supposed to buy those tickets separetely.

Cruise lines offer Air packages, with transfers included. On occasions it may be cheaper to organise your own.

3) As I said, I'd love to go to a tropical paradise. Originaly I thought of going to the south Caribbean area, but are there any other destinations that are commonly enjoyed more (besides Hawaii)?

The Carib has the most choice of ships and best fares. People do praise Hawaii, but there is less choice of ship and higer fares. See www.ncl.com for Hawaii cruises.

4) Would I be much better off booking my trip via a travel agent than a website? Now that the net is such a mainstream afair, is it the most efficient (and cheapest) way to do it these days?

Do not use a cruise lines web site to book. A specialist Cruise TA will give you a lower price than cruise lines the web site and the brochure.

RCI's web site is great www.royalcaribbean.com. but use it for fare quotes and info only - NOT to book.

5) In general, are most things aboard the cruise completely free (i.e. eating, swimming, rock climbing, etc.)?

Food is included unless there is a speciality dining available. Alcohol, photographs, spa treatments and excursions cost extra. The rock Wall, pools and gym are free. The cost of the extras can mount up if you are not careful. The excursions in particular can be pricey. The prices of excursions are on RCI's web site.

[ 08-02-2005: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]


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{Monarch}
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posted 08-02-2005 09:28 PM      Profile for {Monarch}   Email {Monarch}   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you all SO MUCH for being so extraordinarily helpful about answering my questions!
I think that I'll be taking Green's advice to talk to several local TAs about planning this upcoming trip. I'll keep in mind that these people can often give out 'special' deals that are totally custom to the traveler's needs.
I like what Dmwnc1 has to say about checking in to the AdventureOTS and Conquest-class CCL ships. Also, I'm quite active and would have 'a blast and a half' doing all of these crazy activities like virtual rock climbing and ice skating (hooray!).
Though it isn't exactly fun to here this sort of thing, Globaliser's words about deciding between a 'tropical paradise' vacation and a 'cruise holiday' is good advice. I hadn't really thought about that previously, but I can see what you mean. I guess that I shouldn't totally believe the ideal that I'll always be swimming on tropical beaches as the cruise ship awaits me to come aboard. Perhaps I should focus a little more on a cruise that is mostly at sea that one that is intended just to get me to my tropical paradise.
Thanks especially, Malcolm, for giving me specific advice on each and every one of my questions! When I talk to the three TAs, I'll be looking into Air Packages... and as I continue my online research, I'll have a fun time reading up on the RCI Voyager ships. Specifically, it's very helpful to hear what will be costing me on the cruise and what is already included. Since I'm not much of an alcohol enthusiast and will probably only eat at specialized restaurants a few times, I don't suppose that this bill would get too terribly high. I am sort of curious, however, about how much spa treatments cost, and if it is free to go to land (just to swim and work the tan), or if that counts as an excursion in itself.
Thanks again, everyone for providing me with so much useful info, and guiding my future cruise in the right direction! God bless!

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posted 08-03-2005 03:18 PM      Profile for OCEANSDEVINE   Email OCEANSDEVINE   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You can keep the cost down, not drinking, not gambling but spa prices tend to be high and most spas like to sell products which too are costly. Don't forget the tipping policy, that can run up but always found well worth it. I've been on 29 cruises and there was not one person who didn't deserve the tips. Have a great new adventure.
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posted 08-03-2005 04:02 PM      Profile for MOORHOUSE        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just got back from a Royal Caribbean cruise this week!

Did a two week back-to-back (two one week cruises put together) and can honestly say its an thouroughly enjoyable experience, even the second time round!

Like people have said, most things are free, and only drinking soda means that it can be really cheap. You can buy a $60 "soda pass" which lets you hav unlimited soda for your cruise, which saves money hugely.

As for destinations, the Caribbean is excellent. I did the Eastern & Western (well I was meant to until a hurricane got in the way) and it was beautiful weather from start to finish. Another destination you may have not considered is Europe.

Europe has some really nice cultures, and almost every day it will be a totally new country. Air-fares etc. will be more expensive, but its another good experience. I "did" Europe with Ocean Village, and although the ship is hardly new, it was still enjoyable.

Hope that all made sense...


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posted 08-03-2005 04:50 PM      Profile for debm3553   Email debm3553      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I must say I totally disagree with dmwnc1's advice on going to one spot instead of a cruise. If you have never been to a tropical location how would you know if you would enjoy staying there. You could spend major bucks on airfare, lodging, and possibly food and activities if not included in your choice of hotel. What if you hated it!!! With a cruise you get the opportunity to visit places you could never afford to go to one after the other if you were flying. After you visit a place, you can then pick out your favorite as a possible future visit to that island alone. Cruising gives you the chance to sample what is out there. I would also say that finding a certified cruise specialist travel agent would be ideal for you. These agents have special training including the requirements that they must cruise a certain number of ships(they must not be the same line) plus ship inspections plus classes on cruising The certification is done by CLIA(cruise line industry association.) I know this because my best friend of 30 years is a master class certified cruise specialist. Also if you get a certified cruise specialist you are guaranteed that they have cruised before. There are agents out there who have never stepped on a cruise ship. I would ask the agent if they have cruised and on what ships. You are spending good money and you deserve the best you can find. Also a good agent will fight to the death for you should a problem arise and they can and do happen. Good luck and have fun!!!!
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debm3553
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posted 08-03-2005 04:57 PM      Profile for debm3553   Email debm3553      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry dmwnc1 I blamed you for advice that belonged to globaliser about going to tropical locale instead of cruising. I sincerely apologize for the error. Brain went dead , I guess.
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posted 08-04-2005 12:05 PM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by debm3553:
I must say I totally disagree with dmwnc1's advice on going to one spot instead of a cruise. If you have never been to a tropical location how would you know if you would enjoy staying there. You could spend major bucks on airfare, lodging, and possibly food and activities if not included in your choice of hotel. What if you hated it!!!
I think you're missing the point I was making: A week's cruise on a ship is not the same sort of holiday as a week at a tropical beach resort.

As should have been clear from my post, I was not trying to dissuade the OP from doing a cruise at all, but trying to ensure that he knows the difference. Personally, I love cruising and I hate tropical beach resorts. But I know what I'm getting with each of them.

Many cruise brochures do not make it clear what the cruise experience is going to be like, with the result that many first time cruisers have expectations which are not met.


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posted 08-04-2005 03:08 PM      Profile for debm3553   Email debm3553      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was only stating that for someone who has never been to the tropics that cruising was an ideal way to determine where you might want to spend the bigger bucks of staying on one island. I read your statement that you love cruising ,as do I, and I do agree that what's in the brochures can be deceiving. That is the one reason I recommended an agent who has at least been on a cruise and preferably one that is certified in cruising. As we all know, you can't always believe what you read. A good agent can guide him into picking the right ship, itenerary, and will tell him what he will have to pay for. Many a first time cruiser has been caught by surprise on what is not covered. They do tell you this in the brochures, but you need a magnifying glass to find it. Hopefully Monarch will be successful in sailing the right cruise and will come back and tell all of us what a great time he had.
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