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jff1
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posted 06-03-2005 07:04 PM      Profile for jff1   Email jff1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Any of you more seasoned travelers familiar with Scandinavia? My wife & I have decided to plan a cruise for that area and we are woefully ignorant of the alternatives. I would be interested in both your choices of cruise lines and itineraries. We have cruised in the past but only on lines familiar to us in the US. Our past cruises have been Hawaii, Alaska, & the Caribbean. I have enjoyed all of the sharing of experiences on this board and look forward to your suggestions.
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mec1
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posted 06-03-2005 07:44 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do you mean the fjords or the Baltic? Both Scandinavian, completely different experiences. Let us know.
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sympatico
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posted 06-04-2005 11:03 AM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Check out Holland America's cruises to Europe schedule. You will find cruises to Norway and the Fjords, although I think you may be a little late booking this year as most of the cruises are sold out.

Is this what you are looking for?

www.hollandamerica.com


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-04-2005 06:40 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Baltic offers a series of fascinating cities and the Norwegian Fjords, unspoilt scenery (not as commercialised as Alaska).

Why not spend a few days in London and cruise from Dover or Southampton with Cunard or P&O for a 'British Experience'.

www.pocruises.com

www.cunard.co.uk


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jff1
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posted 06-05-2005 11:21 AM      Profile for jff1   Email jff1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks .... to mec1.. after looking at the HAL site per sympatico's suggestion, I think we would tend to favor the Baltic if we had to choose (albeit a very difficult choice). Thanks Malcom... if we wanted to concentrate on the Baltic would there be any advantage to embarking from a Scandinavian port? We realize we are possibly looking at some time in the future depending on what is available and the preferred time of the year to sail. Should we look for a time frame in mid summer or is there some latitude that permits avoiding bad weather.
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mec1
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posted 06-05-2005 11:23 AM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Baltic cruises really only operate June/September and you could board in Copenhagen but this usually simply means a shorter cruise. Dover is ideally suited for ex-British departures with a couple of nights in London beforehand. Lots of ships to cruise from - I'd suggest Celebrity personally!!!!
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-05-2005 12:09 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jff1:
Should we look for a time frame in mid summer or is there some latitude that permits avoiding bad weather.

Being British, I go along with Mec1's idea of spending a 2-3 nights in London pre or post cruise and catching the train to Dover, Harwich or Southampton, all easily reachable from London by train.

The easy and safe option for you is to pick a cruise line familiar to American waters (Hal, Celebrity etc.). The braver option is to pick a more British option such as Fred Olsen's wonderful little ships, the QE2 or a P&O vessel.

If you are over 50, Saga have two wonderfull small classic ships, a real contrast to all those monsters operating in American waters: Click Here

If you are the sort of American that can live with one ice cube in a drink and no prime-rib on the menu, you would probably really enjoy the difference of having a British flavour onboard the vessel. On the other hand if you very fixed in your ways, Celebrity etc. it must be.

British/European weather is very unpredictable even in the summer. The Baltic is not really a sunshine destination. If fine weather really is important to you, July and August offer you your best chances – but it still might rain! Earlier or later in the season will be a little be cooler, maybe wetter(?) but you never really can tell. Off-season is certainly a great way to save some dollars, which I find very attractive.

You will need 12-14 nights to see the Baltic properly. Do pick a cruise that stays 2 night in St.Petersburg. Tallin (Estonia) is an interesting port of call. Many cruises transit the Keil canal, a short-cut through Germany.

Unless you have mobility problems, you can very easily do your own sightseeing. In most cases you can get of the ship (or get a shuttle bus) and see the Cities easily on foot. If you need to travel there are cheap trams and local buses. Everyone seems to understand English.

St.Petersburg is the exception. Most people take the excursions. If you want to do your own thing you need to apply for a Visa in advance. Mind you one couple I met (and there baby daughter) did this and hired a taxi for two days for a few dollars, which took them wherever they wanted to go!

This is the sort of thing: Click Here

(Fred. Olsen's 'Black Watch' 28,000 tons of charm and intimacy)

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jff1
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posted 06-05-2005 07:07 PM      Profile for jff1   Email jff1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks a bunch Malcom... your info will be put to good use. My concern over the weather was not so much to ensure a sunny trip but to avoid missing ports due to bad seas or other such curtailments due to weather. I actually enjoy the cooler, overcast conditions. My wife & I are in mid-50's so your advice on the smaller ships may be our most serious consideration. Thanks again and I will continue to monitor for related posts. You and the other regular posters do a terrific job... particularly for novices like myself.
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mec1
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posted 06-05-2005 07:12 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
jff1 - on the itinerary that Malcolm showed you'd dock in all ports in any case....

Let us know what you and your wife decide on.

Mike


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 06-05-2005 07:24 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jff1:
My concern over the weather was not so much to ensure a sunny trip but to avoid missing ports due to bad seas or other such curtailments due to weather.

Unlikely because the Baltic cruises start spring and end fall (as you say). Tendering is not normally required for the Baltic ports. I would not hesitate to book off-season. You could spend the money saved on a cabin upgrade.

My wife & I are in mid-50's so your advice on the smaller ships may be our most serious consideration.

'Black Watch' and 'Boudiccia' (Fred. Olsen) at just under 30,000 are almost the perfect size, as are the Saga vessels. All cater for the over 50's and are certainly not party-ships!

Because they are older ships, their cabins tend to be smaller than new ships, so there is a high premium for suites. Veranda's are rare. However, what they lack in state-of-the art facilities, they make up in charm and intimacy.

The Dover cruise terminal is particularly charming, too.

UK lines like 'Saga' and 'Olsen' (the latter is actually Norwegian) target Brits, so would probably not offer you a package from the USA. However it would be easy enough to book the cruise only with the line and book transatlantic flights/hotel yourself using Expedia.com (etc.)

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Maasdam
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posted 06-06-2005 01:53 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You cane consider Amsterdam as the port off departure. There are a view cruises wich made round voyages to the Baltic. Costa Cruises is one off theme (iff you like an European cruiseship) You cane spent some days in the Capitol before and after arrival.

Have done an Baltic cruise a/b the Costa Romantica frome Amsterdam and back. It was fantastic. Not much sunshine much rain buth not so cold. Ports as st. Petersburg, Helsinki, Copenhagen, Stockholm etc.

Let us now wich option you booked have a pleasent cruise and Bon Voyage.

Greetings Ben.

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Stan Jacox
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posted 06-06-2005 05:12 PM      Profile for Stan Jacox   Author's Homepage   Email Stan Jacox   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As someone who lives most of the year in this region I can suggest a few things about the weather and the post of St Petersburg. Spring, even late spring like right now(this is far north so June is still spring) there is more likelihood of rain than in September or the first 2 weeks of October. September is a great time to visit because most tourists have gone their way and the weather is usually warm without much wind. The season is May through September.
Another point about size of ship. The Baltic destinations have more than one passenger ship docking area, the larger ships usually have to dock far from desired cities. In the case of St Petersburg, there is a world of difference from coming in on 1,000 or less passenger ship as opposed to the monster 3,000 passenger ships. The big ships have to dock at the cargo port miles from any services and a $30 taxi ride just to get from the ship to the gates of the port and an additional charge for a taxi to take passenger(who have visas) into the city. Each way!
The small ships like the P&O that docked Friday, can use the wonderfully located Neva River port that is a very short walk(across the street) to the sight and activities of the city, including the Hermitage/Whiter Palace, Admiralty, St Isaac's and much more all within view of your ship. The small ships do not have golf, 18 discos, and mega TV projection systems fronting the largest swimming pools but you can't have everything;> By the way, St Petersburg is considered the jewel of that voyage but it is also the one that shore excursions are almost a must. Visas are required if you do not book a shore excursion with either the ship's contract tour company or one of the several popular independent tour companies.
Have a nice trip
Stan

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Patrick
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posted 06-16-2005 10:29 AM      Profile for Patrick     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In addition to Malcolm's suggestions:
May I also suggest to have a look at Orient Lines. This company is operating the MARCO POLO, ex ALEKSANDR PUSHKIN, a beautiful classic liner with excellent service and nice facilities. The ship was entirely refurbished in the early 90ies and is a real contrast to all the big ships in US waters.
Orient Lines is known for excellent itineraries with lots of destinations and quite attractive prices.
This year they have again a big selection of cruises to Scandinavia and the Baltic.
Onboard language is English.
If you don't mind cruising with Germans there would be a big selection of different ships and excellent intineraries.

Patrick


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Ernst
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posted 06-16-2005 10:51 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If german and money is no problem: The Europa is still the best for going to Scandinavia - especially Norway. They have a similar tradition in doing that like Cunard has for crossing the Atlantic.
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