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Tom Burke
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posted 01-12-2005 03:13 PM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What is it?

When does it happen?

QWhat do we have to do?

Anyone with experience of same on new MSC ships (Lirica, Armonia, Opera), please post.


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 01-12-2005 03:21 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:
What is it?

Is that a serious question?


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sympatico
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posted 01-12-2005 04:13 PM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You really don't know what Lifeboat drill is??? Well, then check this out.....it's so much fun.!


http://www.cruisediva.com/safety_onboard.htm

Ever seen the movie Titanic?


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 01-12-2005 04:27 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:
What is it?

When does it happen?

QWhat do we have to do?

Anyone with experience of same on new MSC ships (Lirica, Armonia, Opera), please post.



#1 All passengers are required to chase one another around the promenade until exhausted

#2 After the cocktail hour but not after dinner

#3 All male passengers report to the lounge in drag and are forced to to a famous Benny Hill skit, while the female passengers (dressed as nurses) smack their bottoms and tell them how naughty they have been.


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Tom Burke
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posted 01-12-2005 06:31 PM      Profile for Tom Burke   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Burke   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Seriously - I am a cruise newbie, I am going on a first cruise on a non-english language cruise ship (at least, english isn't the first language on board), and I really, honestly, don't know what this is, or what we'll be supposed to do, or whatever.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 01-12-2005 06:49 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Burke:
Seriously - I am a cruise newbie, I am going on a first cruise on a non-english language cruise ship (at least, english isn't the first language on board), and I really, honestly, don't know what this is, or what we'll be supposed to do, or whatever.


Sorry After you board the ship, there will be an announcement to report to your muster station. This station could be on the boat deck/promenade or in a lounge or other public room. You must bring your lifejacket and have it on during the drill. The lifejacket is in your cabin (usually in the closet or other storage area) The muster station info is usually posted on the inside of the cabin door. The stewards usually check cabins and make sure all passengers are attend the drill. The drill usually takes place as soon as possible after all passengers are on board, it can take place after the ship departs the dock as well.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 01-12-2005 07:10 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry!

The drill is nothing to worry about, you basically do as you are told and assemble where you are told. They show you how to put your life jacket on. It may well only take 20 mins?


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6263866
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posted 01-12-2005 11:47 PM      Profile for 6263866   Email 6263866   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ussually it would take around 20mins but it reallyu depends on the size of the ship, the first time iI've don it onboard Mercury, I thought if was kind of fun
and only took around 15minuties, but onboards the Navagator ots almost twice the # of passengers it took nearly 35 miniutes it especially felt long standing in the 90° sun.

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Jonathan
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posted 02-15-2005 05:21 PM      Profile for Jonathan   Author's Homepage   Email Jonathan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fisrt time i did it i had to sit next to a huge obestly man and he farted and it was hott and smelt really bad made the experience very awful.

Jonathan


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mikiebaccarat
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posted 02-15-2005 05:45 PM      Profile for mikiebaccarat   Email mikiebaccarat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Currently lifeboat drill on the MSC Opera takes place at 4:30 pm, 30 minutes before sailing. One goes to ones cabin and gets and puts on their lifevests. Notes the letter of their muster station on the back of their stateroom door. Muster stations are labled from A through I believe N. When the horns and bells sound one proceeds to their muster station on the open areas of deck 6 (the lifeboat deck). There are signs in the corridors outside your stateroom directing you to the route to your muster station. The elevators cannot be used during this drill. Drill is manditory for all. Frill lasts till all passengers are accounted for usually about 20 min. MSC Opera has one of the more thorough life boat drills that I have attended in my 21 cruises.
Only the Russians on MS Alexander Pushkin in 1966 were more thorough.

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Maasdam
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posted 03-27-2005 04:57 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Tom

Here a picture wich i take, whene the lifeboat drill was taken place a/b the m.s. Rotterdam prior departure frome here homeport Rotterdam.
As you see that they have lower also some of the lifeboats. At Holland America line everyone have to muster outside on lower promonade deck (in the case of the m.s. Rotterdam)

Greatings Ben.


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steeplechase
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posted 03-27-2005 07:23 AM      Profile for steeplechase   Author's Homepage   Email steeplechase   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry Jonathan I was that man and I just had the bbq when I boarded and I am really sorry.
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Jonathan
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posted 03-27-2005 09:44 PM      Profile for Jonathan   Author's Homepage   Email Jonathan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
hahaha that is funny.

Jonathan


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tonychurch
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posted 03-28-2005 01:10 PM      Profile for tonychurch   Email tonychurch   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
do they call out everybody's name as well that you have to answer to
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 03-28-2005 01:31 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by tonychurch:
do they call out everybody's name as well that you have to answer to

Yes or sometimes the cabin number.


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Caronia II
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posted 03-28-2005 02:08 PM      Profile for Caronia II     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Most of the time the "muster to stations" is no big deal.

The worst one I suffered was on a VERY hot departure from Miami with Carnival, where for some reason, they couldn't locate a particular passenger and insisted on keeping the whole passenger contingent on deck in 95deg sun and heavy humidity for 40 minutes while they sorted it out... It was followed by the most disorganized, stairwell crowding, lifejacket dragging rush to the bars I've ever seen...

The funnest was on the Golden Odyssey where the Captain personally went form station to station greeting passengers, talking individuals and kids up and declaring each boat's group "The BEST I've ever seen on a cruise!" only to follow with the same comment at the next station... The EASIEST was on the Radisson Diamond, where you muster by the pool. We all just sat around on lounges while the waitstaff continued drinkservice (complementary) and the muster leaders called out names & cabins...

A REAL pet peeve of mine though is the TIME the muster tends to fall these days. My FAVORITE part of any cruise is the departure from the start port, from the cast off of lines to the clearing of the coast... but in the past 10 years, it seems most lines conduct muster as this is occuring, making it a real challenge and pain in the "r's" to get your jacket back down to the cabin and get back on deck for the remainder of sailout... Anyone else annoyed by this trend?


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Ernst
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posted 03-28-2005 02:23 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Caronia II:

A REAL pet peeve of mine though is the TIME the muster tends to fall these days. My FAVORITE part of any cruise is the departure from the start port, from the cast off of lines to the clearing of the coast... but in the past 10 years, it seems most lines conduct muster as this is occuring, making it a real challenge and pain in the "r's" to get your jacket back down to the cabin and get back on deck for the remainder of sailout... Anyone else annoyed by this trend?

I hate this too. The best time for a drill is BEFORE leaving port (remeber e.g. the Vistafjord fire), giving enought time to get back on deck.
This is of course a problem with late departures. Should it be unavoidable to have the drill the first day after departure, there should be proper anoucements and short "films" shown on the TV system, like on planes.
Genreally, I have not yet seen a "perfect" drill. Usually something is missing. What I want is:

- a proper anoucment before the abandon ship signal; including an order to have all passengers wearing their vests to avoid accidents.
- crew at position in the corridors / stair (& checking all cabins !)
- emergency stair, even if in crew are, should be used (sometime they do not want you to do that )
- having the life vest checked by a crew member
(completness etc.)
- checking, wheter everyone is present
- if it is a ship with muster stations inside, the passengers should have to proceed to their life boat. This should be done in an organized manner, e.g. in a line, holding hands etc. (sound ridiculouse, I know)
- lowering of at least one life boat
- a the end of the drill, the passengers should get the advice to leave their vest on, to avoid accidents


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Jekyll
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posted 03-28-2005 03:24 PM      Profile for Jekyll   Email Jekyll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The four drills I remember most (of the 50+) I have had to do are:

a) QE2 - didn't happen until the 2ND DAY of the crossing - and we didn't even go outside (just stayed in one of the galleries)
b) Sagafjord - as we got on in NYC and the cruise began in FLL - I went to the drill w/ the 30 or so people who also got on in NYC (the partner stayed in the North Cape bar w/ a martini)
c) BRB Oceanic - it was 100+ F and we mustered in one of the enclosed promenades (which had the sun shining on it) - UGH - that was aweful...
d) Ecstasy - all the passengers thought it was a big joke - dumb comments, drinks in hand - bitching and complaining - people like that REALLY get under my skin (and the movie TITANIC had just been released - you would think they would put 2 and 2 together and just GET IT )

In a nutshell - those are my memorable drills.


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Caronia II
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posted 03-28-2005 06:07 PM      Profile for Caronia II     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:

I hate this too....What I want is:

- a proper anoucment before the abandon ship signal; including an order to have all passengers wearing their vests to avoid accidents.
- crew at position in the corridors / stair (& checking all cabins !)
- emergency stair, even if in crew are, should be used (sometime they do not want you to do that )
- having the life vest checked by a crew member
(completness etc.)
- checking, wheter everyone is present
- if it is a ship with muster stations inside, the passengers should have to proceed to their life boat. This should be done in an organized manner, e.g. in a line, holding hands etc. (sound ridiculouse, I know)
- lowering of at least one life boat
- a the end of the drill, the passengers should get the advice to leave their vest on, to avoid accidents


Agreed on ALL counts! Most preferable is a muster prior to departure not during. A crew that is well prepared for the event, seeing as they do them once a week at least, would be nice and a better warning than getting on the PA and between telling you about art auctions and Inch of Gold sales, announcing that you'll have to muster at 4:30!

For one, I recall on Pearl of Scandinavia (all 3 times I cruised on her) the cabin steward came to greet us as we were brought to our cabin and the FIRST priority was to be sure we knew where our vests were, how to store them and precisely what time the muster would be... he then also helped get us to muster by directing us up the emergency stairs that usually would be used by crew, but was the fastest way to stations for all passengers in his section. All along the way there were crew directing passengers and keeping things friendly, safe and efficient. Once the muster was over, instead of ducking to the neither regions of the ship as is common these days, the same crew were there again to help passengers get back to their cabins, all BEFORE the ship sailed, giving almost a full 30 minutes of time to get yourself organized and out on deck... Ah the "good old days"!

quote:
Originally posted by Jekyll:
...Ecstasy - all the passengers thought it was a big joke - dumb comments, drinks in hand - bitching and complaining - people like that REALLY get under my skin

I have experienced this same attitude on most of my Carnival cruises. Suprisingly the three day trips had better attitudes all around than the 7 day durations... The crew tries, but the clientele trends toward the demographic that gets wasted the moment they step aboard... I've still enjoyed my cruises, but as cruising becomes more popular and ships larger and more difficult to manage the incidence of rowdiness and a general lack of caring and coopreation during the only truely serious business, increases...

Ah well... I'm not planning on another CCL cruise for quite some time... Next is Celebrity!

[ 03-28-2005: Message edited by: Caronia II ]


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