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Ernst
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posted 04-07-2013 03:52 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The film shows what remains of Venetian life: a subculture of tourist service industries; a port for monstrous cruisers which is waiting to be expanded; [...] A Requiem for a still grand city.
An illustration of how common property becomes the prey of few.
An elegy to the last Venetians, their humour and their hearts.

trailer of the movie "The Venice Syndrom"


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posted 04-07-2013 08:38 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Released on 6 December 2012, but so far (it seems) only in Germany: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2608566
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Venice is an extreme case, but I think most old European cities suffer from this syndrome, in a greater or lesser way.
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I was in Venice last August for a day, as a port of call. There were six big ships, the crowding was ridiculous!

It was very difficult to enjoy a walk with that volume of people.


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quote:
Originally posted by Johan:
Venice is an extreme case, but I think most old European cities suffer from this syndrome, in a greater or lesser way.
To the extent that the film concentrates on the effect of cruise ship passengers on Venice, the answer to that problem is simple, and has been repeatedly and seriously mooted in recent years: stop cruise ships calling there - providing of course that the decision-makers have the courage to accept the economic consequences.

Obviously, without being able to see the film it's hard to know whether the summaries are accurate. But if it does concentrate on that aspect of Venice's problems, then I suspect that cruise ships may be being unfairly used as a bogeyman. Overcrowding in Venice can be controlled to an extent by controlling the supply of tourist accommodation. As cruise ships are largely being used to add artificially to the stock of hotel beds in the city by overnight stays in port, they are in principle no different a problem from the problem that would be caused if 8,000 rooms were suddenly added to the hotel stock within Venice.


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quote:
Originally posted by Globaliser:
[...] then I suspect that cruise ships may be being unfairly used as a bogeyman. [...]

Absolutely - cruise ships can not be blamed for all of that, especially not in the extreme case of Venice.

However, I do think that this situation at Venice exemplifies a HUGE problem of the cruise industry: Due to the way large ships are deployed these days many people start to cordially hate them. Personally, I think that there is a way to operate large ships in a reasonable manner - in some cases it actually can be an advantage. However, these days we sadly see large cruise ships calling at many entirely unsuitable ports and this trend is unfortunately continuing.


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