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Johan
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posted 11-26-2004 05:38 PM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know if this is the right place to post.
As it is deep autumn and winter coming up, it is time to dream and reflect.

There are so many ports which have mythical names, the sound of which alone conveys you the glamour and adventure of ships, the gulls flying around, the small tugs, the smell of salt, sailors going around. Most of them have literary or other connotations, or mythical with a song.

Probably all lost.

this is my list of mythical ports : Shanghai, Surabaya, Yokohama, Saigon,Hong Kong Montevideo, Tanger, Trieste, Vladivostok, Mandalay, Honolulu ...

Am I too much a romantic. does anyone share my view this are mythical ports (which doesn't mean they ARE actually nice, and are probably a disappointment).

any other mythical ports ?

J

[ 11-26-2004: Message edited by: Johan ]


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CGT
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posted 11-27-2004 01:28 AM      Profile for CGT        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bombay. Mombossa. Alexandria. Tunis. Dakar. Madras.

P.S. I was born in one of your mythical ports.

[ 11-27-2004: Message edited by: CGT ]


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Brian_O
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posted 11-27-2004 02:04 AM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by CGT:
Bombay. Mombossa. Alexandria. Tunis. Dakar. Madras.


Hasn't Bombay been renamed? Mumbai?

Of these I've been to Mombasa and Dakar. Then there's wonderful downtown Mogadishu (said sarcastically).

Brian

[ 11-27-2004: Message edited by: Brian_O ]


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CGT
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posted 11-27-2004 02:30 AM      Profile for CGT        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Brian_O:

Hasn't Bombay been renamed? Mumbai?


Not in my book it hasn't.


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bulbousbow
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posted 11-27-2004 02:34 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Johan wrote:
any other mythical ports ?

Well, there are probably hundreds out there. Not sure how mythical some of these are, but there are a few with a bit of history.

Abidjan, Ivory Coast
Aden, Yemen
Alexandria, Egypt
Apia, Samoa
Aqaba, Jordan
Assab, Eritrea
Bahía Blanca, Argentina
Barranquilla, Colombia
Belem, Brazil
Brest, France
Cadiz, Spain
Cebu, Philippines
Dakar, Senegal
Da Nang, Vietnam
Dar es Salaam, Tanzania
Djibouti, Djibouti
Goa, India
Guayaquil, Ecuador
HaiPhong, Vietnam
Iquitos, Peru
Kuching, Malaysia
Lae, Papua New Guinea
Luanda, Angola
Lüderitz, Namibia
Maputo, Mozambique
Mombasa, Kenya
Mossel Bay, South Africa
Paranaguá, Brazil
Salvador, Brazil
Ushuaia, Argentina
Valparaiso, Chile
Yalta, Ukraine
Zadar, Croatia
Zanzibar, Tanzania

******
P.S. Some I see have already been named by others…

Cheers


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 11-27-2004 09:35 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Southampton always sounds more exciting than it actually is!
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mec1
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posted 11-27-2004 10:13 AM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Southampton is my favourite port in the world - and the sight of Fawley Oil refinery from the decks of an outbound liner one of my favourite views on earth.
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 11-27-2004 11:06 AM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mec1:
Southampton is my favourite port in the world - and the sight of Fawley Oil refinery from the decks of an outbound liner one of my favourite views on earth.

To be honest, I prefer Dover. I prefer cruise terminal 1 to the QEII and the view of the cliffs when departing. But each to his own.


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mec1
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posted 11-27-2004 08:51 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes but having grown up in Dover and sailed in and out about a thousand times whenworking on the ferries I am too used to it.
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Tim Agg
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posted 11-28-2004 12:22 AM      Profile for Tim Agg     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Some magical port arrivals / departures of past years: arriving at Rhodes, at the edge of the city walls, at sunrise; arriving at Istanbul; sailing into Acapulco bay before sunrise; picking up the pilot at Victoria and sailing to Vancouver harbour on a clear day; anchored off Lahaina, Maui; leaving Charlotte Amalie at sunset; sailing from Manhattan at night; sailing from Prince Rupert in early morning mist; Bergen, Trondheim, Tromso, Hammerfest and the rest of the Hurtigrute stops; St.Malo; Portsmouth.

Still to be come: San Francisco, Sydney, Hong Kong, Yokomama, Singapore, Capetown, Rio, Mumbai, Port Said, Southampton, London, Amsterdam, Rotterdam.

Oh, my - time to go cruising again! Next new ports: Tampa, San Juan, Basseterre [Guadalupe], Roseau [Dominica], Barbados.


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Brian_O
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posted 11-28-2004 12:41 AM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by CGT:

Not in my book it hasn't.


Your book is out-of-date. Of course, I often still refer to Maputo as Lourenço Marques because that is what it was called when I lived in that part of the world.

Brian


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posted 11-28-2004 01:53 PM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bordeaux is quite beautiful. Live from Avignon
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posted 11-28-2004 04:42 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Agg:
Some magical port arrivals / departures of past years: arriving at Rhodes, at the edge of the city walls, at sunrise; arriving at Istanbul; sailing into Acapulco bay before sunrise; picking up the pilot at Victoria and sailing to Vancouver harbour on a clear day; anchored off Lahaina, Maui; leaving Charlotte Amalie at sunset; sailing from Manhattan at night; sailing from Prince Rupert in early morning mist; Bergen, Trondheim, Tromso, Hammerfest and the rest of the Hurtigrute stops; St.Malo; Portsmouth.

Still to be come: San Francisco, Sydney, Hong Kong, Yokomama, Singapore, Capetown, Rio, Mumbai, Port Said, Southampton, London, Amsterdam, Rotterdam.

Oh, my - time to go cruising again! Next new ports: Tampa, San Juan, Basseterre [Guadalupe], Roseau [Dominica], Barbados.


You are very welcome to my homeport Rotterdam the Queen on the Maas.

I would like to visit Vladivodstok, Shanghai, Vancouver (hope next year) Cobe and many more.

Greattings frome Rotterdam Ben

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Johan
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posted 11-28-2004 04:56 PM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting replies all, thanks.
Mythical ports are to me those, the sound of whose name alone makes me wish to travel.

J


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Barrys
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posted 11-28-2004 10:55 PM      Profile for Barrys     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've traveled all over the World and there's one mystical place that I really want to visit that is not often heard of....Reine i Lofoten, a fishing village on an island just off of Norway...the views are spectacular! Anyone from CruiseTalk been there?
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posted 11-28-2004 11:23 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Johan wrote:
Mythical ports are to me those, the sound of whose name alone makes me wish to travel.

That's why I added those ports I listed since they are not all visited by cruise ships. Tim Agg added some really nice places, some of the best ports in the world, but they have become too mainstream. I guess Johan you'll have to pick up a world map and draw an imaginary world cruise, and maybe sail out on a freighter from Antwerp. As Tom said, "Oh, my - time to go cruising again!"...

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Cheers


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bulbousbow
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posted 11-28-2004 11:42 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
bulbousbow wrote:
...and maybe sail out on a freighter from Antwerp...

...or maybe we can all chip in and buy ourselves one of those ex-survey ships for sale. Good vessels for the high seas. Anyone interested?

******

Cheers


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posted 11-29-2004 06:38 AM      Profile for sslewis   Author's Homepage   Email sslewis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Would mythic be linked to history?
Dover is still listed on the Ordnance Survey Map as Dubris(DVBRIS), what a lovely name, place and a Roman lighthouse still stands after 2000 years!

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posted 11-29-2004 10:12 AM      Profile for Globaliser     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Johan:
Mythical ports are to me those, the sound of whose name alone makes me wish to travel.
I can understand that, but if you know some of those places, the only travel that their names invoke is the rush to get out of there.

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WhiteStar
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posted 11-29-2004 11:34 AM      Profile for WhiteStar   Email WhiteStar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Casablanca. Everone thinks it will look like the movie. It sounds romantic. It sure surprised me when I was there. Nothing like I imagined.
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Johan
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posted 11-29-2004 12:37 PM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have never been to Casablanca, but I can imagine it. I think the film was even never made at Casablanca, but it is a nice name.

I think Dover is one of Britains most mythical ports, and learning now that she is referred to with her Latin name in official maps is even more fascinating. Thanks, SSLewis.

J


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posted 11-29-2004 01:59 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Casablanca is nothing but a stepping stone for Marrakech, which is mythical, so pretty & delightful, well worth a visit, steeped in history. But just looking at Bulbousbow's list, I think many are on my 'get out quick' list. Abidjan & Aden, run in this day & age sadly. Belem, my suitcases visited in error once; half a world away from Belgrade!

Cebu, plenty of ships, that's about it, I think. Zanzibar, well I'm reading Giles Foden's version at the moment

Pam


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posted 11-29-2004 08:43 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pam - I know this has been said elsewhere but welcome back from me too.

As for ports, Dakar may sound evocative but it holds my record for the shortest time spent ashore - nine minutes - just enough to reach the dock gates, get mbbed by begging natives and get back on board. I don't like Rio or Mumbai either.


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posted 11-29-2004 08:47 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pam - I know this has been said elsewhere but welcome back from me too.

As for ports, Dakar may sound evocative but it holds my record for the shortest time spent ashore - nine minutes - just enough to reach the dock gates, get mbbed by begging natives and get back on board. I don't like Rio or Mumbai either.


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posted 11-29-2004 09:27 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Pam M wrote:
...But just looking at Bulbousbow's list, I think many are on my 'get out quick' list...

I agree. In this day and age some of those ports should be avoided, but it doesn’t mean they are not mythical. In the colonial days and early last century things were different, and I think part of Johan’s mythical experience relates to this, part dream, part reality, where just a mention of a port’s name evokes a sense of mystery and adventure.

******

Cheers


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