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PamM
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posted 06-25-2004 03:25 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From The Detroit News:-

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Downtown Detroit dock to welcome cruise ships

City hopes streams of tourists will flow into new terminal

By Doug Guthrie / The Detroit News

Detroit is banking on a $11.25 million passenger dock and terminal on the Detroit River downtown to return the city to its historic status as a passenger ship destination.

And the $37-million-a-year Great Lakes cruise ship industry is happy to have a new port of call.

?When a city like Detroit announces we are open for business, we have a terminal, you open yourself to revenue streams from tourism as well as the blunt edge of marine handling. People who sell vegetables and fuel oil and handle the garbage, all will benefit economically from ships visiting Detroit,? said Stephen Burnett, executive director of the Great Lakes Cruise Coalition in Toronto.

The groundbreaking Monday for a new Detroit Wayne County Port Authority terminal and public dock in the shadow of the Renaissance Center also is another step toward turning the city back toward the river that was the reason for its founding.

It joins plans for a riverwalk from Belle Isle Bridge to the Ambassador Bridge and the dedication in May of the 31-acre Tri-Centennial State Park along the same upriver stretch.

The goal is to complete the terminal project behind Ford Auditorium by July 2005, in time to make Major League Baseball?s All-Star Game at Comerica Park a cruise ship destination.

?We should think of this as a freeway, but we don?t yet have an exit or an on-ramp,? said Curtis Hertel, executive director of the port authority and a former state legislator.

Funding for the project comes from a $6 million federal transportation grant, $1.5 million from the Michigan Department of Transportation, $3 million in state waterfront redevelopment money and $750,000 in federal funding through the city.

Land for the terminal was purchased for $3 million Friday from General Motors, which also has plans for residential and open space development of other riverfront property near its Renaissance Center headquarters.

?This is some of the best real estate in the state of Michigan, and most of what we have along the river is parking lots,? said Matt Cullen, GM?s general manager of economic development and enterprise services. ?Not that I have anything against cars, but they don?t need a view of the river.?

Seven cruise ships are scheduled to ply the Great Lakes this summer. None is as big as the 2,000-passenger mega-ships that sail the Caribbean, but some are just as plush, according to Burnett. Most are 100- to 200-passenger vessels complete with dining rooms and swimming pools. The largest is the MV Columbus, which carries 425 passengers.

The once-booming Great Lakes passenger trade revived in the past decade, with the MV Columbus visiting Detroit in 1998. Without a terminal, cruises have since docked in Windsor.

Lake cruising took a hit, along with the rest of the tourism industry, after the terrorist attacks of September 11. A company with two new ships being built for the Great Lakes went bankrupt last year. But 11,000 berths available for cruises this summer marks a 20 percent increase over last season.

?Our first study (completed in March) of the economic impact of the Great Lakes cruise industry surprised us a bit,? Burnett said. ?It?s a healthy niche market, and the importance of what Detroit is doing cannot be underestimated. It?s like when the Alaskan cruise trade was starting up. It?s a small terminal, but a bold move that says to the cruise industry that Detroit is open for business. The industry is thrilled with the vision.?

With concerns about terrorism, Burnett said travelers are looking for options closer to home, and the Great Lakes may appear safer than other cruising options.

Linda Sherman, owner of Around the World Travel of Farmington Hills, said she loves the idea but remains skeptical.

?The last one I tried to book, the company went out of business,? Sherman said. ?I think it?s a pretty good idea, though. We certainly have the venue for it; going to Up North or to Wisconsin or Chicago or even visiting the beautiful towns on the west side of our state, there are great places to see. Doing that on a ship would be a lot of fun and a great family thing.?

And for tourists coming ashore in Detroit: ?I don?t know that you want to be discovering some parts of Detroit, but if you had tickets to the Fox Theatre or a ball game and dinner in Greektown or plans to go to a casino, yeah, that would be great.?

Beth Conway, owner of Beth?s Vacation and Event Planning in Livonia, said she has booked Great Lakes cruises for her customers out of Port Huron and believes a Detroit departure would be even more popular.

?Detroit?s waterfront is going to be beautiful in the way New Orleans is an interesting departure point for the big cruise ships.

You can reach Doug Guthrie at (313) 222-2359 or dguthrie@detnews.com."

Pam


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-26-2004 01:18 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Detroit needs it. The downtown area is a ghost town with only the nearby Greek section having any activity. I don't know what the cruise passengers are suppose to do once they dock there.
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posted 06-26-2004 08:23 AM      Profile for sympatico     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know what they are going to do there either. That's the last place I would want to go. We used to go to Greek Town for dinner when my daughter was going to Law school in Windsor, but that's as far as we went. As it was there were as many police patrolling as there were visitors.
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posted 06-26-2004 08:51 AM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have never been to Detroit, and I don't know it, I don't even have a mental image of it, but it is a very famous city. Can you visit the Car factories, or the Car Company Headquarters ? this alone would merit a stop if you were there...
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PamM
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posted 06-26-2004 09:31 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Johan the Henry Ford Museum & Greenfield Village [American History 'comes alive' park] are to the west of Detroit in Dearborn, not far, but transport needed.
I have only driven through Detroit on the freeways a few times, and I was literally praying from the look of the surrounding areas we did not break down! I think it still has the highest crime rates in the US? But I don't suppose that relates to the Downtown area, which is probably fine, but no idea what one would do there. Is there a Suzi Quattro museum?
However I know to the west of Detroit fairly well, gorgeous area with many interesting things to see and do, museums galore, parks, Yankee Air museum, all well worth a visit, but would be quite a trek from the cruise terminal.

I'm not sure what the benefit of a call in Detroit over Windsor is? Someone must be able to vouch for it.

Pam

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CGT
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posted 06-26-2004 09:53 AM      Profile for CGT        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Detroit: When you get off the plane you go through a metal detector, and if you don't have a gun, they give you one.

Ha!


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posted 06-26-2004 10:05 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Detroit is a metaphor for American urban blight and decline of the big city.

The city is Haarlem, Bed-sty, North Philly, Tenderloin, Watts and East LA without the corrsponding UpperWest Side, Rittenhouse Sqaure, Nob Hill, and Beverly Hills.

In recent years Detroit has had a small resurgence.

Michael Moore's movie "Roger and Me" paints a good picture of what the city is and the events leading up to its decline.


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posted 06-26-2004 10:34 AM      Profile for Johan   Email Johan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I knew that Detroit wasn't exactly flourishing, but not that it was that dangerous and bad...
Unbelievable for such a famous city, is nothing produced there any more...?

Sometimes the US puzzles me...

Still, if it is that bad, I can understand why the city would like a cruise terminal. Such things can be a start of change, a focus point...


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posted 06-26-2004 10:55 AM      Profile for Onno   Author's Homepage   Email Onno   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The future is even worse (if we should belive the Robocop movie)
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posted 06-28-2004 02:22 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The times I have been there, the monorail was operating and you could ride around for about 15-20 minutes above the city streets. During this ride you were about three stories above the mosty deserted streets below and eye level with the very lovely old office buildings around the downtown center. It was very strange as the building were boarded up at street level and at the level the monorail traveled, you could look into the mostly vacant offices. It is really like a movie set with facades as there is little to no life around. It is a very sad place that many people have fled because of crime and the loss of many automotive jobs in the 1980s. Sounds like a great cruise destination to me!!
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Regarding Johans comment about Detroit. Automobile factories and their related suppliers dominated the Detroit area for years. Cars and truck production was/is also spread out throughout the United States. Detroit fell victim to a change in consumer demand and the poor economy we had in several areas of the country in the 1970s. Europe had many problems as well, however in the States we had quite a bit more vacant land to move to another location and build completely new manufacturing sites. With these new sites came new communities. Many cities in the former 'Rust belt' that were abandoned in the 1970s and 80s have been re-populated by people that wanted to return to the onetime lovely old neighborhoods. Many of these inner city areas have been restored and Detroit is waiting for it's turn to be 're-discovered'.
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A cruise ship terminal in Detroit will be a good for both the city and the Great Lakes cruise industry. In 2001 when Great Lakes Cruises Inc. attempted a full season of Great Lakes cruises with the m/v Arcadia, they chose Detroit/Windsor as their homeport. Hapag-Lloyd's m/v Columbus has also begun cruises from Windsor. This season 4 ships will be making 26 stops in Windsor.

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quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Regarding Johans comment about Detroit. Automobile factories and their related suppliers dominated the Detroit area for years. Cars and truck production was/is also spread out throughout the United States. Detroit fell victim to a change in consumer demand and the poor economy we had in several areas of the country in the 1970s. Europe had many problems as well, however in the States we had quite a bit more vacant land to move to another location and build completely new manufacturing sites. With these new sites came new communities. Many cities in the former 'Rust belt' that were abandoned in the 1970s and 80s have been re-populated by people that wanted to return to the onetime lovely old neighborhoods. Many of these inner city areas have been restored and Detroit is waiting for it's turn to be 're-discovered'.

Yeah but also don't forget the race riots of the '60's. Detroit had theirs in '67, and it's the only city that never recovered. After that, white flight took hold, to Farmington Hills, Sterling Heights (aka "Strictly Whites"), Troy, Auburn, Southfield etc. Then there is the giant Joe Lewis clenched black fist prominently displayed for all motors to see as they come downtown....


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