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With all the news about Titanic over the last few weeks, most never mention Olympic. It's as if that equally beautiful and very successful ship never even existed. Articles say things like: 'Titanic was the most luxurious liner in the World and had the first swimming pool onboard'-what about her twin sister?
I'd say that had Titanic had an uneventful career, only ship enthusiasts would have ever heard of her or her sisters. Also, had the 1997 film not been made, the anniversary of the sinking would have mostly gone unnoticed.
[ 04-12-2012: Message edited by: lasuvidaboy ]
enough lifeboats for all onboardice patrol24 hour radio servicelifeboat and emergency drillsa more southerly route.
Although the Costa Concordia was the sunken ship flavor of last month, the fact that only 32 out of 4000 were lost is a testament to that an incompetent captain still did not have a greater loss of life. Lessons learned from Titanic a century later.
Lasuvidaboyis right. Sinking made her a legend. The German Imperator upstaged her 2 years later in size and luxury. Only ship nuts know about her.
My son had a PC game about Titanic over ten years ago and one of the outcomes was that a young painter from Germany had shipped a number of his paintings to NY for a gallery exhibit. The game suggested that Adolf Hitler was the painter and that if the gallery show had been a success he might have taken another path.
While that is obviuosly an extreme example, there were many influential people on board (JJ Astor, the Strauses, Guggenheim, etc). How would our live be different if they had survived?
What if Thomas Andrews had survived, maybe his son would have become the chief deisgner for Carnival and the designs of Joe Farcus might never have happened....
Southampton's lost Titanic generationHERE
This is a tragic often forgotten statistic of the disaster. How would Southampton be different now had Titanic returned home then?
Titanic herself had she lived a long uneventful career would be as well known as Aquitania to the unwashed masses who rely on Hollywood to educate them on world history.
And would the 'Olympic' even be famous now if she were not the sister to the ill fated Titanic? Would there be an Olympic Restaurant on Celebrity Millennium? Or would scattered pieces of Olympic only be in the hands of die hard liner collectors?
Titanic would only be a small footnote in history.
[ 04-13-2012: Message edited by: dmwnc1 ]
quote:Originally posted by dmwnc1:"More than 720 of Titanic's 900-strong crew were from Southampton and all but three were men. Only 124 returned to the city."
A list of the names and addresses of all the crew members, victims and survivors, who had a Southampton address is here and there is an interactive map showing how close they all lived to each other and the docks.
Pam
[ 04-13-2012: Message edited by: lasuvidaboy ]
Had the Titanic survived the War what would have happened to the German trio. The Allies were still determined to strip the Germans of their ships. But would they have ended up with White Star or Cunard or ?
I don't know if having the intact trio or even two of them would have made White Star any more successful financially and headed off the collapse and merger with Cunard. But if it did, think about the Atlantic in the 1930s and beyond.
Cunard maybe still found a way in the end to complete the Queen Mary.
Maybe White Star got the new Oceanic built.
By the 1950s Cunard and White Star would have both begun to struggle and which one would have survived? Or would they have both died in the end?
There would be no Queen Mary 2, Queen Victoria or Queen Elizabeth and maybe not even a QE2.
Maybe CGT would have become the last survivor on the Atlantic when both Cunard and White Star collapsed from the competition. Then could you hear the French when Carnival tried to buy them out, "Whose zis Mockey Hairyson and he wants OUR ship! Chic alors!!"
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:Chances are Titanic (and Gigantic/Britannic) would have had similar careers as Olympic which of course ended w/retirment .....[ 04-12-2012: Message edited by: lasuvidaboy ]
You know it's occurred to me that if Titanic had never encountered the iceberg, she would have ended up far less famous than the Olympic. After all Olympic was the first of her class, and often the first is best remembered.
quote:Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:....Also, had the 1997 film not been made, the anniversary of the sinking would have mostly gone unnoticed.[ 04-12-2012: Message edited by: lasuvidaboy ]
As much as I enjoyed Mr Cameron's film (and I'm very grateful he produced it) the Titanic was a super star long before it's release. I have no doubt that the anniversary would be getting major attention even without that movie or it's current re-release.
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