Cruise Talk: GLORY and MONT at Alang

Cruise Talk

Cruise News

Welcome to Cruise Talk the Internet's most popular discussion forum dedicated to cruising. Stop by Cruise Talk anytime to post a message or find out what your fellow passengers and industry insiders are saying about a particular ship, cruise line or destination.

>>> Reader Reviews
>>> CruisePage.com Photo Gallery
>>> Join Our Cruise Club.

Latest News...Norwegian Cruise Line today announced that Norwegian Epic and NCL's Pride of America will both undergo revitalization projects just in time for the 2025 summer travel season. Designed to give guests MORE to do and MORE to enjoy with the freedom and flexibility to design their very best vacation, the new enhancements range from the addition of a reimagined water park for children, the expansion of the adults-only...

Latest News...Lindblad Expeditions, the pioneer of modern expedition cruising, and Transcend Cruises today announced a multi-year charter agreement that will reframe European river cruising for discerning travelers looking to experience the continent's most iconic waterways like a true explorer.The initial agreement with Transcend Cruises will run through at least 2028, and will..

Latest News...Royal Caribbean is setting both the stage and the table with a closer look at its all-encompassing lineup of show-stopping entertainment and unmatched dining experiences to shine on Star of the Seas. Debuting in August 2025 from Port Canaveral (Orlando), Florida, the next combination of the best of every vacation is set to bring to life experiences for all ages from top-notch entertainment,...

More Cruise News...

my profile | register | search | faq | forum home

»	Cruise Talk » Ocean Liners and Classic Cruise Ships » GLORY and MONT at Alang

UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!

Author

Topic: GLORY and MONT at Alang

Midshipcentury
First Class Passenger
Member # 12190

posted 01-04-2010 04:19 AM

Just added an image of the GLORY (ex SALAMIS GLORY, etc.) at Alang taken on Saturday morning. She beached on Friday night. Also at Alang and in the hands of Sanjay Mehta of Priya Blue (BLUE LADY, RITA, NEW ORLEANS, MAXIM M) is MONT, the longest ship ever built and fifth largest ship in the world.

www.midshipcentury.com

scroll to bottom of page.

Peter

Posts: 303 | From: USA | Registered: Dec 2007 | IP: Logged

PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 01-04-2010 08:34 AM

Thanks for those, it is sad to see Seawise Giant on the beach, but just how many other tankers have ever lasted as long? She has had a checkered life and not actually sailed for some of it, but hey she is still the largest in my book!! Forget GT, she's a tanker, dwt is the concern here

Largest at birth and still largest at death; any other ship of any sort managed that?

Pam
[I am not going to argue over anyone elses definition of largest here ]

Posts: 12176 | From: Cambridge, UK | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged

DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 01-04-2010 09:05 AM

Isn't it interesting that both SALMIS GLORY and REGAL EMPRESS had the same smoke areas not far from the engine rooms?

Posts: 2554 | From: Florida, USA, Where the Legend SS NORWAY sailed from. Moving back to FL next yr. | Registered: May 99 | IP: Logged

Lubber
First Class Passenger
Member # 13710

posted 01-04-2010 11:18 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Midshipcentury:
Also at Alang and in the hands of Sanjay Mehta of Priya Blue (BLUE LADY, RITA, NEW ORLEANS, MAXIM M) is MONT, the longest ship ever built and fifth largest ship in the world.

WOW... beaching the ex-Knock Nevis must have been a real feat. Her draft was too deep for the English Channel-- I always thought she was unbeachable!

Since Sanjay Mehta can get that on his résumé, I'm sure the shipbreaking world is his oyster.

Posts: 241 | From: Land | Registered: Feb 2008 | IP: Logged

Magic Pipe
First Class Passenger
Member # 6994

posted 01-04-2010 07:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
Largest at birth and still largest at death; any other ship of any sort managed that?
Pam
[I am not going to argue over anyone elses definition of largest here ]

The last one that I can think of was the Great Eastern!

Posts: 213 | From: NYC | Registered: Jul 2006 | IP: Logged

Indarra
First Class Passenger
Member # 6005

posted 01-04-2010 08:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Magic Pipe:
The last one that I can think of was the Great Eastern!

Also worth mentioning that Normandie came close. And in fact Seawise Giant was not the largest at birth. Originally built for Nomikos, bought by C.Y.Tung and lengthened by Nippon Kokan, Tsu to become the largest.

[ 01-04-2010: Message edited by: Indarra ]

Posts: 274 | From: Tokyo | Registered: Oct 2005 | IP: Logged

Cunard Fan
First Class Passenger
Member # 7530

posted 01-05-2010 01:08 AM

It kind of makes me sad to see Seawise Giant on the beach.

Posts: 2327 | From: Pasadena just north of Queen Mary | Registered: Sep 2006 | IP: Logged

PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 01-05-2010 03:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Indarra:
And in fact Seawise Giant was not the largest at birth. Originally built for Nomikos, bought by C.Y.Tung and lengthened by Nippon Kokan, Tsu to become the largest.

She was never delivered to Nomikos though & I don't believe anywhere near completed before the hull was purchased by Tung and lengthened to become the largest. She never went to sea before the lengthening.

I suppose there is always Titanic as well.

Pam

Posts: 12176 | From: Cambridge, UK | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged

Lubber
First Class Passenger
Member # 13710

posted 01-05-2010 11:05 AM

Seawise Giant/Knock Nevis was outsized in gross tonnage by a group of four Batillus-class tankers built at Chantiers de l'Atlantique in the '70s, all of which have been scrapped. Taken as a group, these would have been the largest in birth and in death.

Posts: 241 | From: Land | Registered: Feb 2008 | IP: Logged

PamM
First Class Passenger
Member # 2127

posted 01-05-2010 04:50 PM

Which is why I said DWT and to forget gross tonnage, which is not a useful measurement for an oil tanker, being more concerned with how much she can carry v space available. MONT is both longer and has [had] a higher DWT than the Batillus quads.

Pam

Posts: 12176 | From: Cambridge, UK | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged

LenKinap
First Class Passenger
Member # 23718

posted 01-05-2010 06:12 PM

Hello,

Thanks Peter for the information. Mine were accurate, it was a problem of beaching at the best condition.

Another one has now 80-90% of "chances" to finish at Alang, it's the Saga Rose because no one is interested by the vessel and - if I'm well informed - scrapping is now seriously envisaged. Very seriously ... It's only a question of time and of money (the owner has a gigantic appetite for a such old ship, not in so good mechanical shape)

The Doulos is another case, but I am doubtful... Alang should be now plain like an egg.

Posts: 141 | From: Paris | Registered: May 2009 | IP: Logged

Waynaro
First Class Passenger
Member # 3484

posted 01-06-2010 12:49 AM

Thanks for the pictures, Peter. Good to see REGAL EMPRESS' funnel is still standing.

Posts: 6108 | From: Vallejo,CA : California Maritime Academy!!! | Registered: Nov 2002 | IP: Logged

rd77
First Class Passenger
Member # 2117

posted 01-06-2010 04:15 AM

The beaching of the ex-SEAWISE GIANT really means the end (of sorts) for the era of the 70s mammoth tankers or ULCC's (tankers of over 320,000 DWT). There are one or two other old ULCC's engaged as storage vessels, a couple have become FPSO's and the rest has been scrapped.

Overall, the ULCC's days are numbered. Only 4 ULCC's were built in recent years. Hellespont of Greece had them built at Daewoo around 2003. Hellespont sold them with a profit(!) to Euronav of Belgium and OSG of the US. Unfortunately, two of these vessels have already become storage vessels

Posts: 1037 | From: The Hague, Netherlands | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)

Ultimate Bulletin Board^TM 6.1.0.3

VACATION & CRUISE SPECIALS

Check out these great deals from CruisePage.com

Royal Caribbean - Bahamas Getaway from $129 per person

Description: Experience the beautiful ports of Nassau and Royal Caribbean's private island - CocoCay on a 3-night Weekend Getaway to the Bahamas. Absorb everything island life has to offer as you snorkel with the stingrays, parasail above the serene blue waters and walk the endless white sand beaches. From Miami.

Carnival - 4-Day Bahamas from $229 per person

Description: Enjoy a wonderful 3 Day cruise to the fun-loving playground of Nassau, Bahamas. Discover Nassau, the capital city as well as the cultural, commercial and financial heart of the Bahamas. Meet the Atlantic Southern Stingrays, the guardians of Blackbeard's treasure.

NCL - Bermuda - 7 Day from $499 per person

Description: What a charming little chain of islands. Walk on pink sand beaches. Swim and snorkel in turquoise seas. Take in the historical sights. They're stoically British and very quaint. Or explore the coral reefs. You can get to them by boat or propelled by fins. You pick. Freestyle Cruising doesn't tell you where to go or what to do. Sure, you can plan ahead, or decide once onboard. After all, it's your vacation. There are no deadlines or must do's.

Holland America - Eastern Caribbean from From $599 per person

Description: White sand, black sand, talcum soft or shell strewn, the beaches of the Eastern Caribbean invite you to swim, snorkel or simply relax. For shoppers, there's duty-free St. Thomas, the Straw Market in Nassau, French perfume and Dutch chocolates on St. Maarten. For history buffs, the fascinating fusion of Caribbean, Latin and European cultures. For everyone, a day spent on HAL's award winning private island Half Moon Cay.

Celebrity - 7-Night Western Mediterranean from $549 per person

Description: For centuries people have traveled to Europe to see magnificent ruins, art treasures and natural wonders. And the best way to do so is by cruise ship. Think of it - you pack and unpack only once. No wasted time searching for hotels and negotiating train stations. Instead, you arrive at romantic ports of call relaxed, refreshed and ready to take on the world.

Holland America - Alaska from From $499 per person

Description: Sail between Vancouver and Seward, departing Sundays on the ms Statendam or ms Volendam and enjoy towering mountains, actively calving glaciers and pristine wildlife habitat. Glacier Bay and College Fjord offer two completely different glacier-viewing experiences.

More Vacation & Cruise Specials...