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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 12-07-2009 12:59 PM

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Saga Rose arrived back in Southampton yesterday from her final cruise for Saga Cruises.

She has sailed again tonight at 17.00 hrs, UK time, and her destination, on the AIS ship position maps, is shown as Gibraltar !

She is expected to arrive there on the 12th December 2009 at 23.30 hrs.

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Karsten
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posted 12-07-2009 05:49 PM

Bunkering stop en route to India?

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 12-07-2009 07:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Karsten:
Bunkering stop en route to India?

If that is the case it might be the best thing. I doubt Saga would want to go through months of possibly negative press over whats in Saga Rose's future.

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mike sa
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posted 12-08-2009 12:21 AM

Didn't give her much time to off load stores, crockery, cutlery , art works etc etc etc. Would be weird to do it at Gib then fly the whiole lot back.

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 12-08-2009 04:05 AM

Hi Mike

I did wonder if she might have stopped at Swansea, if she can get in there, to have off loaded
some of her items for the new ship.

Perhaps Tony, in Gibraltar, may be able to update us when she gets there.

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 12-08-2009 04:08 AM

Hi Mike

It could be that the purchasers of the ship have also bought a lot of her gear if there is any intention to operate the ship.

Seems to be a complete lack of news and even the Captains blog on her final cruise stopped at Malta !

[ 12-08-2009: Message edited by: Neil - Ex P. & O. S. N. Company. ]

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Lubber
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posted 12-08-2009 07:57 AM

If the new buyer intends to use ex-Saga Rose as an accommodation ship, as previously speculated, it makes more financial sense to negotiate the onboard stores and sundries into the purchase than have to go out and purchase replacements. Art can always be auctioned off to raise cash.

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LenKinap
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posted 12-09-2009 03:48 PM

Hello,

As the new potential buyer* is a ship-broker, you have to consider that it's the last voyage ...

I have no other information for the last destination, it could be Alang. The signature was scheduled the 8Th December, but ...

* the market is not officially signed between Acromas Shipping LTD and the new owner.

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ahrpd
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posted 12-11-2009 10:49 AM

SAGA ROSE has just arrived in Gibraltar's Eastern Anchorage from Southampton with a crew of 66.

Tony

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ahrpd
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posted 12-11-2009 11:45 AM

I've uploaded images of SAGA ROSE about to drop anchor half an hour ago:
http://www.gibraltarport.com/photo_library.cfm#top

She is just so beautiful!!

Tony

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Midshipcentury
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posted 12-11-2009 11:49 AM

Lovely images, Tony. Any word as to her next destination?

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ahrpd
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posted 12-11-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Midshipcentury:
Lovely images, Tony. Any word as to her next destination?

Thanks! She is "awaiting orders".

Tony

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Midshipcentury
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posted 12-14-2009 03:44 PM

Hi Tony,

Is she still at Gib?

All the best and thanks,

Peter

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r.fiebig
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posted 12-14-2009 05:00 PM

She is, Peter.

Best,

Raoul

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 12-14-2009 06:25 PM

The free AIS ship position maps were not showing anything earlier for Gibraltar, but they are back on again and she is still there.

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ahrpd
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posted 12-15-2009 03:05 AM

SAGA ROSE left Gibraltar early this morning for sea trials and is coming back this afternoon. She will be docking alongside on Friday to take on water and is due to depart at the weekend, final destination unknown.....but it may well be Lisbon!

World Cruises Agency, ie Classic International Cruises, apparently looked her over on Sunday! She would make a fine addition to their fleet - FUNCHAL, PRINCESS DAPHNE, PRINCESS DANAE, ARION and ATHENA. This would be excellent news!

Tony

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Johan
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posted 12-15-2009 04:50 AM

Sorry if i missed something, but if CIC can take her over rather easily, why sold Saga the ship ?
I thought there was a SOLAS problem, but i may be wrong.
In any case, I hope the news is true !
J

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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Member # 5641

posted 12-15-2009 05:48 AM

Hi Tony

With Classic International Cruises interest in Saga Rose, and having updated their other ships, I expect they have the experience to update the Saga Rose.

She would make a great ship for them so lets hope they decide to purchase her.

Many thanks for the news.

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Galaxy
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posted 12-15-2009 09:23 AM

This sounds like GREAT news! To many classic ships are on the way or already are taken out of service and we must hope that some of them still will get many more years in service....I really hope that CIC take her to their fleet

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 12-15-2009 01:41 PM

Very interesting news. I always thought there was to much real wood onboard to keep her in service?

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dougnewman
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posted 12-15-2009 02:03 PM

It would be wonderful to see her in the CIC fleet, a growing assembly of classic ships.

CIC has looked over her before and decided she would not be economical, but who knows?

I'm not sure how she'd look in white but hey, I'll take it.

Incidentally, the wood seems to be less of a problem on FUNCHAL than expected, so perhaps this knowledge has changed the viability of SAGA ROSE. Hmm.

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Midshipcentury
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posted 12-15-2009 02:25 PM

This would be an absolute triumph for people who love classic ships. The ROSE is in substantially better condition than I had thought before boarding her last November. Even mechanically, she is in good repair. She can operate through next year, so perhaps they will do a gradual abatement of any wood that needs to go.

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Ernst
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posted 12-15-2009 03:11 PM

It would be nice to see her around a bit longer. There is of course a simple explanation how this would be possible despite the SOLAS 2010 deadline: Maybe she will be operated for a few months only without any alterations or changes.

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lasuvidaboy
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posted 12-15-2009 09:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dougnewman:
I'm not sure how she'd look in white but hey, I'll take it.

Like QM2, I think she looks best w/a dark hull. If she is sold to CIC (hopefully), she could be their only ship w/a dark hull.

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dougnewman
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posted 12-15-2009 09:58 PM

SOLAS notwithstanding, it sounds, from what I have been told, that she could operate for a lot more than a little while longer.

I would love to see her go to CIC, not least because it might give me a chance to sail in her, which I have always assumed I never would.

If anyone can make this work it has to be CIC, with an admirable record of operating very elderly vessels (most a lot older than this).

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