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TomS
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posted 10-29-2009 05:49 PM      Profile for TomS   Email TomS   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi All!!!
I really appreciate these deck plans you all have posted. Does anyone have any deck plans of the Portuguese liner PRINCIPE PERFEITO of 1961? I have always wondered why this ship was'nt converted to a cruise ship like the INFANTE DOM HENRIGUE was. The ships in the 50s-60s looked much better than the ships built today!
TCS

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Linerrich
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posted 10-29-2009 06:42 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
All of my plans for PRINCIPE PERFEITO are too large to scan and post here--sorry. But here's a nice color photo of her:

After her liner services with CCN ended in the early 1970s, she was converted into an accommodation ship for use in various parts of the world. I think she would have been greatly changed on board, and it was too late to convert her for cruising. I'm sure the vessel was abused and damaged by the time she was scrapped at Alang in 2001.

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desirod7
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posted 10-29-2009 07:04 PM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For info on the Principe Perfieto

Maritime Matters Photo Essay Principe Perfieto


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posted 10-29-2009 07:18 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
David, thanks for sharing that link. She was more intact on board at the end than I would have thought.

Rich


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TomS
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posted 10-29-2009 07:49 PM      Profile for TomS   Email TomS   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello!!!
Thanks again !! I like that pic of the ship! I can't imagine that some of these ships were'nt converted to cruise ships in the 70s-80s ! Its weird so many beautiful ships did'nt see service anymore and we had the 1953 OLYMPA for years !!!
TCS

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Aussie1
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posted 10-29-2009 10:11 PM      Profile for Aussie1   Email Aussie1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The PP was of course bought by Sitmar for conversion to a cruise ship in the late 1970's to partner Fairwind and Fairsea but they got cold feet when the costs were added up. Instead they had the Fairsky built new in France, which I expect was the correct descision but robbed the PP of a possible active future beyond that of a static accomodation ship. Peter Knegos words and photos show her to have been quite original and well kept to the end.
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DAMBROSI
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posted 10-29-2009 11:38 PM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know about you boys, but she almost reminds me of the SAGA twins. Nice looking ship.
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NAL
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posted 10-30-2009 04:24 AM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dambrosi....it's the hull and funnel shape that remind you of the Saga sisters. The superstructure is quite different. Good observation!
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Jekyll
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posted 10-30-2009 08:20 AM      Profile for Jekyll   Email Jekyll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Regarding the Saga similarity:

PRINCIPE PERFEITO (1961)
Lisbon

Built by Swan, Hunter & Wigham Richardson Limited, at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, UK
Yard #164
19,393 GRT
625 x 78.4 feet


This makes sense - same ship yard as Vistafjord around the same time as Sagafjord (it was pointed out she was built in France - but did all three ships share the samearchitect?)...I also found the funnel reminiscient of the two. The forward lounge also reminds meof the Garden Lounge on both sisters...

Further reading also indicated the only reason Vistafjord was built at Swan Hunter only because the yard in France went out of business...

Maybe the design similarity is simply a co-incidence...

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NAL
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posted 10-30-2009 08:32 AM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jekell.....don't forget Sagafjord was built in France; Vistafjord was built in England.
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posted 10-30-2009 08:45 AM      Profile for Jekyll   Email Jekyll   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes - you're right...regardless the design similarities are there. Thanks for the correction
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DAMBROSI
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posted 10-30-2009 07:24 PM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you NAL, I had a feeling I was just a bit off, this ship was much smaller, but the funnel design and the hull . I would loved to have sailed on this ship.
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TomS
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posted 10-31-2009 11:54 AM      Profile for TomS   Email TomS   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi!!

Thanks for all the posts ! I think some of these more obscure ships are more interesting than the Queens and the Big U!! It seems to me that in the 70s some of these ships would have been put back into service as cruise ships! I like them but Some of these shkips are more interresting to me.
My favorite of course was the LEONARDO DA VINCI. Its sad she did not last longer than 20 years.
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