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desirod7
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posted 06-10-2009 08:22 AM      Profile for desirod7     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 


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viking109
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posted 06-10-2009 09:06 AM      Profile for viking109        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Certainly is. Where was the 1st shot taken?
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Linerrich
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posted 06-10-2009 09:22 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by viking109:
Certainly is. Where was the 1st shot taken?

The first shot was taken in New York's Upper Bay, with the arrival of the new NORWAY and departure of QE2 in 1980. A huge mural-sized version of this photo was sponsored by Kodak for quite some time, I believe in Grand Central Terminal (perhaps a different venue, New Yorkers, please correct me if I'm wrong.)

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Jepp
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posted 06-10-2009 09:37 AM      Profile for Jepp   Email Jepp   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And the second one at St Thomas 1983.
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/norway_queen_elizabeth_2_ex.htm
/Jepp

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DAMBROSI
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posted 06-10-2009 12:42 PM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When it comes to the SS NORWAY I'm there, wonderful photos. I'm going to make a collage of this for my desktop..thank you for finding these.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-10-2009 01:27 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Norway never looked better! QE2 has that short term blue boot-topping in that pic and in the next pic it was back to red (along w/her funnel).
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TampaMike
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posted 06-10-2009 10:52 PM      Profile for TampaMike   Email TampaMike   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There was a Kodak photo / mural in Rockerfeller Plaza (the mall).

Unsure if one also was in Grand Central.

Norway had issues docking in NYC as quite a bit of silt fromt the Hudson had built up. She was berthed with her stern sticking quite far past the pier as the bow could not be brought in further. Additionally the bow thrusters would have sucked silt.


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SCOTT H
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posted 06-10-2009 11:41 PM      Profile for SCOTT H   Author's Homepage   Email SCOTT H   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Amazing pictures of 2 legends!
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Brian_O
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posted 06-11-2009 01:08 AM      Profile for Brian_O     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
Norway never looked better! QE2 has that short term blue boot-topping in that pic and in the next pic it was back to red (along w/her funnel).

QE2 had the blue boot-topping for 2 years: from her late-1978 refit to her late-1980 refit. The white funnel casing was repainted in Cunard-Red in her post-Falklands refit in July-August 1982.

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dmwnc1
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posted 06-11-2009 01:55 AM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I remember seeing pictures of the QE2 once with tri-color 'pin-stripping' down her side between the black hull and the first row of windows in the white part. Does anyone know what time frame was that and what was the reasoning? Seems like she used to have a Lion painted under or near the word 'Cunard' on her sides near the bridge wing at one point as well.
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Linerrich
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posted 06-11-2009 06:37 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
I remember seeing pictures of the QE2 once with tri-color 'pin-stripping' down her side between the black hull and the first row of windows in the white part. Does anyone know what time frame was that and what was the reasoning?

The tri-colored striping was part of the ill-fated and short-lived "Project Lifestyle" that Cunard tried to infuse into QE2, making her more trendy and competitive with the cruise industry. This was in 1995, but when Carnival acquired Cunard, they quickly decreed that the ship should be in the traditional livery, intending to trade upon Cunard's history. The stripes were removed by November, 1996.

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dmwnc1
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posted 06-11-2009 07:27 AM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
The tri-colored striping was part of the ill-fated and short-lived "Project Lifestyle" that Cunard tried to infuse into QE2, making her more trendy and competitive with the cruise industry. This was in 1995, but when Carnival acquired Cunard, they quickly decreed that the ship should be in the traditional livery, intending to trade upon Cunard's history. The stripes were removed by November, 199 Rich

Thats the picture I saw when building my model of the QE2 and never saw it again afterwards. The striping is still on my model in it's display case back in North Carolina.


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dougnewman
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posted 06-11-2009 08:27 AM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerrich:
This was in 1995, but when Carnival acquired Cunard, they quickly decreed that the ship should be in the traditional livery, intending to trade upon Cunard's history. The stripes were removed by November, 1996.
I think the stripes came in 1994, and were removed in 1999.

What was removed much earlier was a large golden lion logo above 'CUNARD' - that may perhaps have been removed sometime in 1996. There was (is?) also the one beneath the funnel that Cunard "forgot" to remove right until the very end!

All the other Cunard ships got these stripes too, and they even appeared in the printed Cunard identity of the time (replaced around 1997 with a simpler one and then again in 1999 when Carnival "re-branded" everything including, sadly, the house flag).

That was also the period when QE2 had a blue hull, going back to dark grey in the same refit where the stripes disappeared.


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Lubber
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posted 06-11-2009 10:34 AM      Profile for Lubber     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dougnewman:
That was also the period when QE2 had a blue hull, going back to dark grey in the same refit where the stripes disappeared.

This I'd like to see.


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dougnewman
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posted 06-11-2009 05:51 PM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Lubber:
This I'd like to see.
What? QE2 with a blue hull?

Here is a photo of her with the blue hull, though unfortunately it is really difficult to tell it is blue in photos. But it was definitely a dark, rather greenish blue.


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 06-11-2009 07:19 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think she also had a blue-black hull in the 1980s. I remember she was painted in Hong Kong back then and a crew member told me that she was given a similar dark royal blue hull color as the royal yacht Britannia. Cunard's 'Federal Grey' is a dark cool blue tone.
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TampaMike
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quote:

What was removed much earlier was a large golden lion logo above 'CUNARD' - that may perhaps have been removed sometime in 1996. There was (is?) also the one beneath the funnel that Cunard "forgot" to remove right until the very end!.[/QB]

Doug are you referring to this lion?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1400/1430565709_31d4a32823.jpg?v=0

It was located by the observation deck on Sun Deck forward, below the bridge.

or this one at the afte end of the funnel casing?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/2787978376_28197ea5d5.jpg?v=0


And this one in the pool...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3543/3347077637_5441f0a473.jpg?v=0

I was always confused about the lion painted above the CUNARD name. I thought it was a Trafalgar House logo as opposed to the Cunard golden lion?


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posted 06-11-2009 08:18 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dougnewman:
What? QE2 with a blue hull?

Here is a photo of her with the blue hull, though unfortunately it is really difficult to tell it is blue in photos. But it was definitely a dark, rather greenish blue.


That picture is EXACTLY what my model looks like. Very Very cool. THANKS for sharing it. I spent over 2 months putting that model together complete with magradome, and all the suites and balconies up top.working on it on average 3-4 hours a day. I miss my models. The QE2, QM2, SSUS, Lusitania, and several more incl. an almost 3' high Eiffel Tower. I stored them at a friends house in NC before I moved up to WV and havent been back to retreave them.

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dmwnc1
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posted 06-11-2009 08:27 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One funny note about that model I built. I shattered my left thumb when I was almost completely done with the model. The doctors did an external type of surgery and used two pins to stabilize the joint at the knuckle, driving them from the outside down into the joint inwards. The pins had round pearl head-caps that eventually became the two radar domes on the forward superstructure of my model. Everytime I look at that model now I think of my thumb surgery.
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dougnewman
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posted 06-11-2009 09:59 PM      Profile for dougnewman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lasuvidaboy:
I think she also had a blue-black hull in the 1980s.
Hmm.

Well, strictly speaking her hull was never black, but the color used from 1994-1999 (when she had the "speed stripes") was much bluer than the one used before or after.

quote:
Originally posted by TampaMike:
or this one at the afte end of the funnel casing?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/2787978376_28197ea5d5.jpg?v=0


That one.

quote:
Originally posted by TampaMike:
I was always confused about the lion painted above the CUNARD name. I thought it was a Trafalgar House logo as opposed to the Cunard golden lion?
No, it was the version of the lion used in the Cunard logo from 1994-1996 or so.

The Trafalgar House logo consisted of three pennants.

quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
That picture is EXACTLY what my model looks like. Very Very cool. THANKS for sharing it. I spent over 2 months putting that model together complete with magradome, and all the suites and balconies up top.
Ah but she never had the Magrodome with that livery!

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Sorry about that dougnewman, I must have not been paying attention and maybe used a side-view picture from one era and an above-view picture of her stern from another? My model must be a hybrid of QE2's...
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posted 06-11-2009 11:00 PM      Profile for Fairsky   Email Fairsky   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What has become of the Cunard crest mounted below the bridge. A book indicates that the lion crest was originally from Cunard Princess. Captain Warwick had it mounted on QE2 in 1995. That seems like an item that should be preserved or mounted on the new Queen.
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I found this bit of history on another site:

The two crests were removed from the Cunard Princess and the Cunard Countess before the vessels were sold. Both crests were put in storage on the QE2. Captain Warwick had the crest from the CP mounted on the QE2 on 01 September 1995 (see page 176 in the 3rd edition of Captain Warwick's book about the QE2) The crest was removed when Cunard changed their logo to the one currently in use. Before he was withdrawn from the QE2, Captain Warwick has one of the crests sent over to France and it was put in storage on the ship. Dring September 2004 the crest was mounted on Deck 13 by the splash pool.
In January of this year, the management approved the relocation of the crest on the bridge front and it was mounted on 16 February while the ship was docked at St Kitts.
At about the same time and prior to the QE2 and QM2 meeting up with each other at Southampton on 16 April, the other crest was mounted on QE2's bridge front.

Still, what has become of the one from QE2?


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I understand the change of funnel colors from white to the traditional Cunard colors with black stripes, but what was the reasoning behind 'fattening' the funnels up.
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quote:
Originally posted by dougnewman:

All the other Cunard ships got these stripes too, and they even appeared in the printed Cunard identity of the time (replaced around 1997 with a simpler one and then again in 1999 when Carnival "re-branded" everything including, sadly, the house flag).


What did the House Flag look like before?


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