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[ 04-28-2009: Message edited by: Chris ]
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:Well found Chris! So do we like it?
No.
This model is number two (of three) prepared for the company responsible for QE2's current conversion and from which final decisions were made for the historic ship's eventual appearance, both inside and out, in her new role as a floating hotel.
Does that mean this is one of the concepts that was not accepted and that the actual conversion will be based on a different model?
I suspect that all three were models similar but each had unique features.
Joe at TravelPage.com
quote:Originally posted by Thad:Does look pretty ugly and blocky...
If it was a model for the conversion of the SS United States, bringing her back to service, I'd say 'not bad' really - but it's not. However I do see their need to expand the accommodation and public rooms if it's going to be a successful luxury hotel.
[ 04-28-2009: Message edited by: Malcolm @ cruisepage ]
That model is a design mess.
Piling things on top of ships does not usually look too good and this is no exception. It could be much worse but that doesn't mean it's not still bad.
Really, I am more and more of the mindset that I would rather have seen her scrapped - or even that I would rather see her scrapped now, but ideally, that I would rather have seen her go like CANBERRA. A clean break. None of this fake "preservation" stuff - let's get real, this is not preservation and even if she was preserved as she is now I would probably not want to visit her anyway ... it would be liking viewing the embalmed corpse of a dead relative. And it would not be practical to preserve her - so let her die.
I appreciate being able to visit the Queen Mary & would have loved to visit Canberra in retirement. If they have to make enough changes to make preservation viable, then so be it, as long as the ship is still recognisable.
Graham.
quote:Originally posted by dmwnc1:The model actually reminded me of those quirky characature looking models of ocean liners that guy on eBay carves out of wood and sells for a rediculous amount of money.
Don't worry, you can buy the QE2 model for a ridiculous amount of money to.
I think that this is not how you preserve a ship certainly not the QE2. They wanted the most famous liner but then ruin here nice profile in a way that she's unrecognizable. This sad ship is really the victim of a owner who have not the slightly idea what fore treasure he got. And I agree it was better to see here scrapped then rapped like this. I was never a big fan of here, but she not deserve this fate.
Greetings Ben.
At least the Queen Mary still has lifeboats and has not had too much change of profile apart from the Veranda Grill which is now double height.
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:I notice the model has no lifeboats. Of course she will not need any, but that's no reason to remove them! She wont need a funnel either.
It kind of bums me out too. One of my faviorite places on the Queen Mary is her sun deck. I love just walking along under the canopy of boats.
quote:Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:At least the Queen Mary still has lifeboats and has not had too much change of profile apart from the Veranda Grill which is now double height.
Thanks Malcolm - it was actually Rob Lightbody who found it, however I thought CT readers would be interested to see it too.
I am hopeful that, if the model is for sale, they've decided not to go down that path.
IMO that particular design alteration is a disgrace - it is an total dishonour to design, to QE2, to shipping and to preservation. It seems absolutely unthinkable to spend $100m buying an icon to turn it into a freak show... so perhaps it was just one of many concept ideas.
So no - I don't like it.
[ 05-02-2009: Message edited by: Chris ]
quote:Originally posted by Chris: IMO that particular design alteration is a disgrace - it is an total dishonour to design, to QE2, to shipping and to preservation. It seems absolutely unthinkable to spend $100m buying an icon to turn it into a freak show...
Unfortunately, business people DO NOT buy old ships to preserve them. The sole idea is to generate profit from them. If that includes a complete refit and adding extra decks, that's what they will do.
quote:Originally posted by bcscot:It is still a more sympathetic heightening of the superstructure than was done to France to make her into the Norway & she was still well liked.
The advantage of the SS Norway's modifications were that we could at least still cruise on her. Once on board you could look at the passing ocean and could not see the changes so well.
Looks like they are raising the Funnel a couple decks higher on the QE2...that will look odd.
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