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Topic: What if the SS Rotterdam V was owned by NCL

Redlinekid2
First Class Passenger
Member # 7157

posted 03-26-2008 10:27 AM

In 1997. How would they had treated this ship. Would they had retained the ship's original lively or converted it in the same way as the SS Norway. Also, how would Star Cruises had handled the ship if it was transfered to their division? I am quite positive that the ship would have gotten a one way ticket to Mr. Metha's Cruise Lines. Any thoughts?

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Thad
First Class Passenger
Member # 1224

posted 03-26-2008 10:31 AM

what useless speculation

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 03-26-2008 10:47 AM

No doubt she would currently be sailing out of New York doing occasional trans Atlantic crossing via Cherbourg and Soton to Rotterdam, they may have decided to lengthen her to improve profitability. Off season long cruises via the southern route to the Med and back and of course the World Voyage. She would have had a good 10 years more service in her - before retiring as a museum in Manhattan.

Sorry could not resist being perverse.

In honesty it would never have happened. NCL couldn't have afforded her and she simply was not suitable for them anyway.

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Linerrich
First Class Passenger
Member # 4864

posted 03-26-2008 11:33 AM

By 1997 NCL had gotten rid of their original fleet, built in the late '60s and early '70s, and were trying to figure out what to do with the NORWAY, dating from 1962, which they were giving away at $399.00 p.p. just to get people to sail on her. Why on earth would they have kept an even older vessel like ROTTERDAM?

Rich

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desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 03-26-2008 11:57 AM

NCL would have done the same as Carnival Corporation; sell her to Premier Cruises or the next highest bidder.

NCL only held onto the SSNorway for so long because some accounting chicanery had her way overvalued at $100m. Her resale value was $25m at the most. NCL could not take that loss w/o a shareholder revolt.

Premier's business model failed. The classic ships that survive from Classic International Voyages and Monarch International are small ships long ago converted to diesel on specialized itineraries and cruise formats. They are not marketed in the United States.

Main stream cruise lines do not want old ships, nor do their clientele.

Major complaint is the cramped cabin with that tiny round window.

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linerguy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4289

posted 03-26-2008 02:26 PM

I'm with Thad on this one....

-Russ

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joe at travelpage
Administrator
Member # 622

posted 03-26-2008 02:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Redlinekid2:
In 1997. How would they had treated this ship. Would they had retained the ship's original lively or converted it in the same way as the SS Norway. Also, how would Star Cruises had handled the ship if it was transfered to their division? I am quite positive that the ship would have gotten a one way ticket to Mr. Metha's Cruise Lines. Any thoughts?

Yeah, I have a thought. Why don't you stop posting about saving old ships.

I think we have covered the subject in detail and these posts are now getting to be annoying. Asking the same question over and over will not result in a different answer.

You are formally warned that going forward I will begin deleting your posts unless they include something more than idle speculation or rumours from silly web sites.

You have made 134 posts since joining the forum and 134 of them have essentially been about the same subject. Give it a rest...

Have a nice day.

Joe at TravelPage.com

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Italianliners
First Class Passenger
Member # 5446

posted 03-26-2008 03:49 PM

wow... joe is angry now...

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 03-26-2008 03:49 PM

NCL would have painted her in a medium blue hull (like Norway's) and converted the wasteful enclosed promenades into cabins-possibly verandah cabins!! The original interior woodwork would have been painted over in bright 'tropical' colors and all new 1990s style furniture would have been added. She could have been placed on a 3-day party run out of Miami catering to the spring break crowd. After several year of this she would have been transferred to the Asian casino market where her lounges would be gutted and converted into vast casinos and re-decorated in a 'tasteful' Asian style. After a few years of this service she would have been beached.

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Anders
First Class Passenger
Member # 6373

posted 03-26-2008 07:28 PM

Thank you, Joe!

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Brian_O
First Class Passenger
Member # 3910

posted 03-27-2008 12:11 AM

Thank you, Joe.

Brian

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SCOTT H
First Class Passenger
Member # 6831

posted 03-27-2008 01:20 AM

You tell him Joe. Enough is enough!!

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viking109
First Class Passenger
Member # 6280

posted 03-27-2008 07:42 AM

What if the world was flat.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 03-27-2008 08:02 AM

quote:
Originally posted by viking109:
What if the world was flat.

World cruises would be difficult as the ships would risk falling of the edges!

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Jekyll
First Class Passenger
Member # 1878

posted 03-27-2008 08:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
World cruises would be difficult as the ships would risk falling of the edges!

And to do a full world cruise (round trip) - would they now not have to be twice as long as well? or at least sail twice as far?

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Atlcruiser
First Class Passenger
Member # 4586

posted 03-27-2008 09:36 AM

Thank you Joe. It was getting quite old to say the least.

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mike sa
First Class Passenger
Member # 5957

posted 03-27-2008 10:22 AM

If the world where flat Carnival would be doing cruises there from Miami.

Celebrity would rename all observation lounges the Bar at the Edge of World and Princess would rename all theirs (not that they have many any more) Windows to the World ( a name I liked even if the lounge itself was not up to much as you could not actually see out of most of it) .

Wouldn't a world cruise then be cheaper - no more steaming up hill ?

Sorry could not resist !

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Globaliser
First Class Passenger
Member # 4153

posted 03-27-2008 11:00 AM

Thank you, Joe!

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