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Linerrich
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posted 12-31-2006 11:57 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We're all familiar with the legendary CARONIA of 1948/49; she was painted in 4 shades of green for cruising, and was known as the "Green Goddess."

We've also all seen an abundance of her interior photos, but not much from her open decks. I've put together an album of photos taken aboard CARONIA during a West Indies cruise in March, 1949--she had only been in service for two months and you can see how green she really was. All deck houses, ventilators, king posts, masts, and fittings were painted green! These images are from slides in my collection, taken by a long-departed friend:
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Rich


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Peter_LT
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posted 12-31-2006 12:42 PM      Profile for Peter_LT   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello Rich,

Thanks for posting these fabulous pictures! However, I should point out that the picture above was not taken in 1949. It was probably taken in 1966 after the major refit when the aft docking bridge was removed. In its place can be seen the new screening of the extended Lido Deck.

Regards,
Steve (Peter S.)
Webmaster : Caronia II Timeline

[ 12-31-2006: Message edited by: Peter_LT ]


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tg_lindo
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posted 12-31-2006 12:54 PM      Profile for tg_lindo   Email tg_lindo   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
those are fun candid photos, definitely a peek into the past.

to my taste, that's a rather queasy / sickly shade of green on the deck houses. i recall reading somewhere that when SSUS wasi interior designed, they opted to avoid colors that might suggest seasickness and went for whites and reds as a result.


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Linerrich
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posted 12-31-2006 01:17 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Peter_LT:
I should point out that the picture above was not taken in 1949. It was probably taken in 1966 after the major refit when the aft docking bridge was removed. In its place can be seen the new screening of the extended Lido Deck.
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You're right, the exterior view was not part of the 1949 batch of slides--that was actually taken in the 1960s, in the Solent, I believe. I just included it as one of my best photos displaying what CARONIA looked like externally for those who may not know her.

Rich


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 12-31-2006 01:40 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought the entire superstructure/deckhouses etc were painted white sometime in the mid 1960s? The hull remained green. The green used was not to my taste but a color very popular in the late 1940s. Happy New Year!
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Cunard Fan
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posted 12-31-2006 03:02 PM      Profile for Cunard Fan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I personally love the green, but where is the 4th green. Theres the hull then the superstructure then the line between the two. So where is the fourth green shade? I always thought the QE2 might look good in that livery. I am probably alone with that.
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Linerrich
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posted 12-31-2006 03:57 PM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cunard Fan:
I personally love the green, but where is the 4th green. Theres the hull then the superstructure then the line between the two. So where is the fourth green shade? I always thought the QE2 might look good in that livery. I am probably alone with that.

The hull has two shades of green, then there's the dark green line, and the deck houses were another shade.

Rich


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Peter_LT
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posted 01-01-2007 03:07 PM      Profile for Peter_LT   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Rich wrote:
The hull has two shades of green, then there's the dark green line

The four shades of green were...
3rd lightest shade up to darkest shade cheat line;
from cheat line above to promenade deck inclusive was 2nd lightest shade and;
lightest shade above that.

Oh, and green wasn't used just outside. The only relief from it down below, was cream above a black line along the working alleyway - I am, of course talking about the crew quarters.

There was very little evidence of green in the passenger accommodation. The only enclosed space for them in green being the promenade deck and garden rooms. Everywhere else was late 1940's art-deco chique, including the finest rare wood veneers - until the 1965 refit.

From that point there was a rather incongruous mix of styles. The main deck suites were "modernised" only to step right back when exiting them, or visiting the main lounge which featured a confusing mix of old and new.

The 1965 re-fit also introduced blue plastic seats alongside the traditional Cunard steamer chairs on the new Lido Deck. That was a colour mix that could induce sea-sickness.

Lets kill the myth that Cunard Cruising Green did it - the colour choice was inspirational at diffusing sun glare in the tropics!

Regards and Happy New Year,
Steve (Peter S.)
Webmaster: Caronia II Timeline


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NAL
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posted 01-01-2007 10:09 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rich....
That has to be one of the prettiest shots I've seen of Caronia. Thanks. The a/b shots were great too.

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NAL
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posted 01-01-2007 10:12 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
BTW, when in liner service which dining room was the cabin class one? Which cabins were cabin class. I have a deck plan, but it's for cruise service and doesn't specify which class is where.
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Ocean Liners
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posted 01-01-2007 10:40 PM      Profile for Ocean Liners     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by NAL:
BTW, when in liner service which dining room was the cabin class one? Which cabins were cabin class. I have a deck plan, but it's for cruise service and doesn't specify which class is where.

I assume that forward foyer was used for First Class passengers so the Balmoral Restaurant was used for the First class.

The Sandringham Restaurant and Aft cabins would be used for the Cabin class on Trans Atlantic Voyages.

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In the early 1960s my grandparents were booked on ssUS for a summer trip to Europe. A strike was called (the beginning of the end for US Lines) and the crossing cancelled. My grandparents were given the option of Caronia (which was sailing around the same time to England) or flying and they chose the ship. Being retired at the time there was no need to hurry and they always enjoyed an ocean voyage-plus all there clothes were packed for an Atlantic crossing.
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Peter_LT
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posted 01-03-2007 12:13 AM      Profile for Peter_LT   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello Folks,

Well, I've just spent the past few days in a state of pure delight! The reason being that Rich has very kindly allowed me to use his 1949 photographs on the Caronia Timeline site.

The sheer quality of these pictures has provided me with the impetus to expand the previous 2 pages of transcribed shore arrangements information into 6 pages of a new Virtual Caribbean Cruise. Of these, 2 have been devoted to a regular cruise activity for passengers - the Deck Hike.

If you've got your shorts and plimsols on, then I invite you to clamber around Caronia's upper decks - and don't forget to bring your "cozzie"!

I'd just like to sincerely thank Rich for his kind permission to use these photos; they have brought back many memories for me, as they will for several others who also trod those hallowed teak decks.

Regards,
Steve (Peter S.)
Webmaster: Caronia II Timeline


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J.S.S.Normandie
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Wow what a website. Ive never seen such a complex detailed site.
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