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Willem
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posted 08-21-2006 05:06 AM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just received following information from Gdansk.

The shipowner has announced that next Thursday (24 August), the s.s. Rotterdam will leave Gdansk and will be towed to Wilhelmshafen in Germany
and not to Kaliningrad in Russia as declared earlier.
The 'Celica', the cargoship on which the toxic waste will be transferred, is still on the roads of Gdansk.

Willem van der Leek


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Willem
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posted 08-23-2006 10:43 AM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In yesterday's newspaper, the owner declared that it would be either Germany or Latvia.

Today they posted following statement on their website:

Choosing an alternative harbour
23.08.2006 - Dissension between two parties in Kaliningrad harbour in Russia has resulted in the Shipping Company opting for an alternative harbour. It was intended for the bags of asbestos waste to be transported from Kaliningrad. At the same time the new mooring place at the Gdansk dockyard would also be prepared for the arrival of the ss Rotterdam. Several dockyards in Europe have now offered their services, resulting in the departure from Poland not having to suffer any further delays. We will decide on a dockyard as soon as possible in order for the steamship to be able to unload the bags and for renovation activities to be continued.


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Patsy
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posted 08-23-2006 11:42 AM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Doesn't all this indecision make you want to shout, "Get on with it!" from time to time? I know it does me.
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lasuvidaboy
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posted 08-23-2006 11:46 AM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Patsy:
Doesn't all this indecision make you want to shout, "Get on with it!" from time to time? I know it does me.

I totally agree Patsy! I wonder how these shipyards stay in business. It seems that they don't even want the business.


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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 08-23-2006 11:52 AM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I can just see 10 years from now...the Rotterdam is now in Madagascar to have the asbestos removed.

Will it ever happen?


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Willem
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posted 08-23-2006 01:03 PM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just got the news that they are working on the Rotterdam.
Heavy chains are loaded on stern and bow of the ship. Probably the towing equipment.

My contact in Gdansk is trying to find which tug, what time of departure and destination.
I hope to hear from him very soon.

Willem


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Maasdam
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posted 08-23-2006 04:58 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wilhelmshaven closer to Rotterdam........

quote:
Several dockyards in Europe have now offered their services, resulting in the departure from Poland not having to suffer any further delays.

Thene the rumour of Verolme Keppel talks/bidt is not far frome reality.......

Patsy yes i have that feeling to.

Greetings Ben.

[ 08-23-2006: Message edited by: Maasdam ]


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Patsy
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posted 08-23-2006 05:07 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's so good to know I'm not the only one. After all this with Norway I'm getting very jittery when hitches and delays start coming up where Rotterdam's concerned. None of us want her to go the same way, especially after coming so far with the restoration.
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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
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posted 08-23-2006 05:48 PM      Profile for Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Author's Homepage   Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Patsy

This one is a goer.

It was just unfortunate that someone forgot to disclose the bags of asbestos on board when she arrived in Gdansk

It no doubt would have been better if the bags had been removed before her arrival there then work may have been able to progress.

There does however seem to be a problem with the depth of water in the harbour which does not seem to have been fully explained.

It could just be too shallow in the area where they wish to put her to carry out the rest of the work.

Regards,

Neil ( Bob )


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Ernst
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posted 08-23-2006 06:37 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is all a bit chaotic and probalby could have been avoided - but I agree with Neil - chances are much higher that this will be a happy ending.

There are of course risks involved (towing her etc.) - and old ships are always good for surprises but other than in the case of the Norway it was not an accident which ended her carrer - and it is also an advantage that she is much smaller - which makes it easier to accomodate her should this project - for whatever reason - fail. (which would be the worst case scenario)

So let's hope that there are no more surprises - and that everything goes well - and please keep us updated. (whoever has access to reliable information)


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Patsy
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posted 08-23-2006 07:37 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Neil,

Yes. I know I'm worrying unnecessarily. I can't help it. I'm surprised I haven't got loads of wrinkles the amount I worry. LOL! I'm really surprised they didn't declare the asbestos bags. It was a bit sloppy of them. Perhaps it just didn't occur to them there would be a problem. But things are progressing nicely, albeit at a very slow pace. I bet the owners will be relieved when everything returns to normal and the restoration can be completed after all the time, effort and money they've put in so far. They'd probably hate it more than we do if it all collapsed after reaching this stage.

Look forward to the latest installment, Willem!


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Patsy
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posted 08-25-2006 08:29 AM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rotterdam has left Gdynia now. Progress at last!
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Willem
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posted 08-28-2006 02:39 PM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
s.s. Rotterdam left the harbour of Gdansk on Friday 25 August at 02.25 pm, the seatug Bazalt joined at 03.20 pm and the are now heading for Wilhelmshaven, Germany.


Photo © Jakub Bogucki. Used with permission.


Willem

[ 08-29-2006: Message edited by: Willem ]


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 08-28-2006 02:46 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Finally an image of a real ocean liner at sea! The news this week of the former Stella Polaris joining the beautiful Rotterdam V in Europe is great news for classic ship lovers.
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Maasdam
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posted 08-28-2006 06:11 PM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Willem:
s.s. Rotterdam left the harbour of Gdansk on Saturday 26 August at 02.25 pm, the seatug Bazalt joined at 03.20 pm and the are now heading for Wilhelmshaven, Germany.


Photo © Jakub Bogucki. Used with permission.


Willem


She looks huge in this angle. I love here sheer and real liner profile. Happy sailing to Wilhelmshaven and Good Luck old Girl.

Greetings Ben.


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Patsy
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posted 08-28-2006 06:23 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is a terrific photo of her. Two happy endings this year then.
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moodus2
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posted 08-29-2006 09:48 AM      Profile for moodus2   Email moodus2   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
will her entire refit be done
in germany? or will she go back
to poland?

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Willem
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posted 08-29-2006 11:17 AM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by moodus2:
will her entire refit be done
in germany? or will she go back
to poland?

Who knows


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Vaccaro
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posted 08-29-2006 03:05 PM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Indeed, a warming image.
Long life and good luck to you SS ROTTERDAM !

You're our last chance of a great ocean liner of the past in Europe!

Hope no one lets you down and gives up the continuation of your great career and hope every one takes care of you!


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Willem
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posted 08-31-2006 09:44 AM      Profile for Willem        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Position 31 August 2006 at 12.00 hrs.

55.16.8 N 007.25.1 E

It seems they will arrive in Wilhelmshaven tommorrow.

Willem


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