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TDM99
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posted 08-15-2006 12:29 PM      Profile for TDM99   Email TDM99   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1895897.cms
" ADIEU MY WONDERFUL SHIP "

" I LOVE YOU SO "

Noel


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Patsy
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posted 08-15-2006 01:00 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What we need on here is a crying smilie like this .

We knew it was coming though the minute she left Bremerhaven. It was just when.

There's a lovely article in today's Southern Daily Echo but annoyingly it's not on their site.


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Patsy
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posted 08-15-2006 02:01 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just typed it up so everyone can read it so excuse any spelling mistakes.

From the Southern Daily Echo today:

By Keith Hamilton

So finally it looks like the old girl is to set sail on that mournful one-way voyage to the scrapyard, as the death knell sounds for legendary liner SS France.

These days the giant vessel is known as Blue Lady and lies waiting off the coast of India for her fate to be sealed.

For more than a decade, France, with her two distinctive winged funnels, was a familiar and well-loved sight on the port skyline of Southampton.

The splendid vessel represented French taste and the French artisitc way of life and quickly attracted many passengers, tempted by her unique atmosphere and character.

After her glory days on the Atlantic, France - at the time the longest liner in the world - was laid up and then converted for a new career as a cruise ship, sailing under the name SS Norway.

In recent years the ship made the occasional nostalgic call to Southampton - each time bringing out thousands of sightseers to renew their association with this elegant vessel that was the epitome of continental chic.

She cruised the Caribbean successfully as Norway, but after a severe engine-room explosion the ship never really recovered, and despite ambitious plans to turn her into a floating casino in the Far East or a tourist attraction in Dubai, she was ultimately towed to India.

Concerns over the amount of asbestos still on board Blue Lady meant it was down to the Indian Supreme Court to decide whether or not the liner could be broken up by local workers.

The green light for the start of the work has now been given, and it is expected the ship-breakers will now begin to move in on the vessel.

Even after extensive refits there was much that still dated back to 1962, when the liner visited Southampton for the first time.

The ship's main restaurant, Windward - once first class - still featured a glorious grand staircase that swept down into the huge public room with its elegant murals and artwork, while Club Internationae featured two impressive crystal statues and an intimate cocktail bar.

Many of her cabins retained the original 1960s fittings and furniture - an echo of the time she would power her way from Southampton to New York.

Over the years, Southampton gave the liner two great send-offs. The first was her maiden sailing in February 1962, and the second in May 1980, when the liner, as Norway, called at the port before making a positioning voyage to Florida.

France was launched by Chantiers de L'Atlantique and launched by the then president's wife, Madame de Gaulle, on May 11, 1960. The new liner first visited Southampton in the month before her maiden voyage for a series of tests alongside the old Ocean Terminal in the Eastern Docks.

In service France settled down well, with hardly any teething troubles. Geared turbine machinery gave her a speed in excess of 30 knots and offered Britain's ageing liners still competition.

Operating costs were spiralling, and as the number of passengers switched to air travel the financial situation grew so bad the French Line abandoned their service in 1974.

After a long lay-up, she was acquired by Norwegian Caribbean Lines, which spent £45m on the purchase and conversion of the liner to a cruise ship.


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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 08-15-2006 02:09 PM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow thats alot to type!!! But thanks a very nice article.
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Ernst
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posted 08-15-2006 02:15 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for typing the article.

It is sad that this beautiful ship had it's career ended by a terrible accident and is now to be scrapped on a beach in India.


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posted 08-15-2006 02:37 PM      Profile for mec1   Author's Homepage   Email mec1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She's 44 - she's had a great run for her money and will always be a legend. I shall miss her.
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posted 08-15-2006 03:10 PM      Profile for Anders        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for sharing the article with us, Patsy!
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Patsy
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posted 08-15-2006 05:56 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pleasure. He's a ship lover just like we are. It's a really good article and I thought you'd all like to read it. I didn't mind the typing on this occasion.
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SCOTT H
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posted 08-15-2006 06:09 PM      Profile for SCOTT H   Author's Homepage   Email SCOTT H   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
FOR OCEAN LINER LOVERS EVERYWHERE, THIS IS A TIME OF MOURNING. I FOR ONE WILL REMEMBER IN HER PRIME, AND NOT DWELL ON WHAR IS TODAY. I WILL HAVE A FEW DRINKS TONIGHT AND REFLECT ON THAT AND THE AMAZING MEMORIES SHE GAVE SO MANY PEOPLE. R.I.P. FRANCE/BIG BLUE/NORWAY, YOU WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
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posted 08-15-2006 06:11 PM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Probably inevitable but a too much sad day for me.

SS FRANCE, rest in peace and... adieu.

(screenshots captured from the game Virtual Sailor)

[ 08-15-2006: Message edited by: Vaccaro ]


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PamM
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posted 08-15-2006 06:43 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Brilliant Vaccaro ... but you are 'teasing', she keeps coming back.

Pam


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NAL
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posted 08-15-2006 07:11 PM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks, Patsy. I had three trips on FRANCE and they will always be remembered.
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posted 08-15-2006 07:34 PM      Profile for BigUFan   Author's Homepage   Email BigUFan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Alas, nothing comes to pass but her final doom.

May ye rest in peace, old girl. Shame, I hardly knew you. I shall now pour myself a cocktail in your honor.

[ 08-15-2006: Message edited by: BigUFan ]


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posted 08-15-2006 09:13 PM      Profile for jeffrossatsea   Email jeffrossatsea   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
it's a shame such a legend in liner history has to go.....but it was eventually going to happen.....i just feel i have missed out on sailing aboard her.....luckily i had a friend work on the norway for a while and presented me with a lot of memorabilia......she'll be missed for those who have sailed her....and for me.....i'll dream of being on board.....jeff
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posted 08-15-2006 09:26 PM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have'nt drank a glass of wine since Tony passed, I will this Sunday...for both the SS NORWAY and Tony.
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posted 08-15-2006 10:02 PM      Profile for linerguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In 1977, when Charlie Chaplin died, Bob Hope said it best,..."We are lucky to have lived in his lifetime".

Although we're talking about a 'she', this statment holds true of ssFRANCE/NORWAY,...

-Russ

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J.S.S.Normandie
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posted 08-15-2006 10:30 PM      Profile for J.S.S.Normandie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This website has wonderful pictures of Norway inside and out.

S.S. Norway


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posted 08-16-2006 07:31 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by J.S.S.Normandie:
This website has wonderful pictures of Norway inside and out.

S.S. Norway


Great photos--thanks for sharing. And this website reminds me of how we all psyched ourselves up for the last farewell to NORWAY as she left Miami for the 'last time' on Sept. 2, 2001, on her way up to NYC and thence over to Europe. I bitterly regretted not being aboard her for that trip, but was among the throngs of people down at the end of Government Cut watching her sail away.

Of course within 10 days our world had changed dramatically, and the NORWAY did come back. I was fortunate enough to board her several more times, including 2 more sailings before the explosion.

Rich


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Patsy
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posted 08-16-2006 12:37 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
After looking at those pics, I'm sorry but I have to do it again.
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posted 08-16-2006 02:08 PM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you want to see a very short documentary (15/20 seconds) of NORWAY / FRANCE / BLUE LADY arriving at the scrapyard beach at Alang, tomorrow (not today since there currently are the news of yesterdays), go to Journaux télévisés on France 3, then click on "Le 19/20", place the cursor near the right end and watch.
(I'll indicate the exact timing for the cursor location tomorrow once I'll have checked it after the update of the site).

Beware, that's very short but... sad. The proud and still intact ship (from the distance we can see her) is filmed from the beach itself with workers around the cameraman.

Another sad thing is that French news only very briefly report now about the dismanting but had not spoke about the ship during the past 4 or 5 months (at least) and this is the first time this evening they dare to do so...

How sad...

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posted 08-16-2006 03:23 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for posting the link. A sad view.

In the picture you find a 'clock' on the lower right - you can use this to find
"DEMANTELEMENT BLUE LADY" quickly which has been broadcast at 19h51m35s - there is something on golf just before the short scene on the France/Norway.


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posted 08-16-2006 03:43 PM      Profile for AleksNorway   Email AleksNorway      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
To me and many others, this beautifull lady is a piece of art. She has a soul and a history.
A great monument from the best sides of our culture is about to be destroyed in the hunt for money.
And while they cut her to pices many people are going to die, in her open wounds at the beach of Alang.

Tragic....


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Patsy
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posted 08-16-2006 04:11 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is so sad. I was saved from crying by the phone ringing. I wonder why they didn't mention her before? Didn't want to keep repeating themselves or don't consider her French any more?
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posted 08-16-2006 05:01 PM      Profile for Vaccaro   Author's Homepage   Email Vaccaro   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes Ernst, the site has been updated with the last news.

You can do the same on clicking on News on France 2 and selecting 20h27m3s (Inde : le désamiantage de l'ex-paquebot France).

The documentary is a bit longer but mainly focussed on Alang's workers job, although you can see a nice waterspray above the fore deck of FRANCE in black and white archive movie.


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posted 08-16-2006 05:18 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the update - the BW material is very nice - but the pictures of Alang leave me speechless - the conditions there seem to be really bad.
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