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Topic: France not headed to Alang just yet.

J.S.S.Normandie
First Class Passenger
Member # 6253

posted 05-10-2006 11:25 AM

Just to let you all know, France is being towed to Dubai, as they are still looking for buyers.

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lambcom
First Class Passenger
Member # 656

posted 05-10-2006 11:50 AM

Hmmm...two posts within hours. One, from bulbousnose with a published report that the Norway is enroute to Alang and the scrappers and this one saying she's headed for Dubai for possible use as housing for immigrant workers.

Seems to me the first may have more credibility given how much has already been stripped from the interior and hauled away...

Any bets?

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joe at travelpage
Administrator
Member # 622

posted 05-10-2006 12:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by J.S.S.Normandie:
Just to let you all know, France is being towed to Dubai, as they are still looking for buyers.

Excellent...

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lasuvidaboy
First Class Passenger
Member # 4527

posted 05-10-2006 12:57 PM

It makes sense that she could be used for a few years as an accomodation ship. She could easily accomodate 3000 plus workers (and be completely trashed in the process) before finally scrapped. The lounges, theater and dining rooms could be converted into huge bunk rooms like liners during WWII.

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Liner Enthusiast
First Class Passenger
Member # 6336

posted 05-10-2006 12:58 PM

I'll be the first to put in my bet.
She's going to Alang.
Sorry Jonathan,
Though the once grand Le France/Norway will be truely missed... Her time has finally come.

In current form she barely resembles her youthful past. She has been opened up altered and operated on so many times that there really is not much left from her former glory days. Her heart is now in such bad shape that repair is impossible. She has served a long and glorious life but her time has come. Let her go with some dignity. And let her go now, before that dignity is lost.

The idea of watching her torn apart on the beaches of Alang will not be pleasing. But in reality it is a natural process that all ships who survive sucessful careers will face. Nothing is forever. I would much rather our beloved Le France/Norway be sent to the breakers than to watch her become some sort of delapitated rusting pile of crap, barely keeping itself a float, and in such bad condition that it's residents resort to deficating on the floor and such... Let the Blue Lady keep her dignity.

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Patsy
First Class Passenger
Member # 5611

posted 05-10-2006 01:33 PM

Perhaps Dubai is a smokescreen to put Greenpeace off the scent.

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J.S.S.Normandie
First Class Passenger
Member # 6253

posted 05-10-2006 02:43 PM

I don't think anyone understood correctly.

I didn't say she was being brought to Dubai as an accomadation ship.

She is being re-routed there while they try to find a buyer, rather than havning her floating around the middle of the ocean. Alang is still weeks away.

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desirod7
First Class Passenger
Member # 1626

posted 05-10-2006 06:32 PM

According to Tug-Barge she is going to Dubai.
It aint over till the large lady sings

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J.S.S.Normandie
First Class Passenger
Member # 6253

posted 05-10-2006 06:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by desirod7:
According to Tug-Barge she is going to Dubai.
It aint over till the large lady sings

No,
Till the "Blue Lady" sings!

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 05-10-2006 11:28 PM

Well, good news for those that want to save her. The news piece I posted could also be incorrect as things seem to be happening quickly. Anyway let's see what transpires.

******

Cheers

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Brian_O
First Class Passenger
Member # 3910

posted 05-11-2006 01:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by J.S.S.Normandie:
I don't think anyone understood correctly.
I didn't say she was being brought to Dubai as an accomadation ship.

Neither did lasuvidaboy. He simply suggested a possible use for Norway once she gets to Dubai. OTOH, maybe Gillette has a manufacturing fccility in Dubai.

Brian

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J.S.S.Normandie
First Class Passenger
Member # 6253

posted 05-11-2006 01:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Brian_O:
Neither did lasuvidaboy. He simply suggested a possible use for Norway once she gets to Dubai. OTOH, maybe Gillette has a manufacturing fccility in Dubai.
Brian

I think Patsy is the closest, they are just biding their time until they bring her to Alang. Or sell her.

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Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES
First Class Passenger
Member # 5641

posted 05-11-2006 06:31 AM

Email Neil - Ex P & O & PRINCESS CRUISES

Hi All

According to the local news for Dubai, on various websites, there is thousands of refugees stuck there from Iraq who can not get home due to there still being problems in their own country.

British and American forces are also preventing them from returning.

It could be possible that the ex ss Norway could be used to accommodate them as they are said to be in the docks area with no proper accommodation.

Neil ( Bob )

[ 05-11-2006: Message edited by: Neil Whitmore ( Bob ) ]

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DAMBROSI
First Class Passenger
Member # 100

posted 05-11-2006 10:22 AM

Does this mean she maybe delayed for sure in being scrapped???? I can only hope.

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 05-11-2006 12:13 PM

quote:
Patsy wrote:
Perhaps Dubai is a smokescreen to put Greenpeace off the scent.

I don't think they are that stupid. Greenpeace seem to have eyes and ears everywhere.

******

Cheers

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bulbousbow
First Class Passenger
Member # 4440

posted 05-11-2006 12:19 PM

quote:
DAMBROSI wrote:
Does this mean she maybe delayed for sure in being scrapped???? I can only hope.

Of course. Don't worry, there will be a delay. There seems to be a legal issue brewing. It's possible they won't scrap her until all her hazardous material is removed by someone who is competent. At who's expense I don't know.

******

Cheers

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J.S.S.Normandie
First Class Passenger
Member # 6253

posted 05-11-2006 02:01 PM

Well as long as she stays in Dubai for a while I dont care what they are doing.(except scrapping, burning, or sinking her.) It will give us more time to get her.

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Malcolm @ cruisepage
Cruise Director
Member # 301

posted 05-11-2006 02:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by J.S.S.Normandie:
It will give us more time to get her.

We've had at least a year already and nothing!

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J.S.S.Normandie
First Class Passenger
Member # 6253

posted 05-11-2006 04:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:
We've had at least a year already and nothing!

yes but we've only had a month.

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Ernst
First Class Passenger
Member # 5369

posted 05-11-2006 04:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by J.S.S.Normandie:
yes but we've only had a month.

Why didn't you start earlier?

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J.S.S.Normandie
First Class Passenger
Member # 6253

posted 05-11-2006 04:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
Why didn't you start earlier?

Because Barry just proposed this idea a month ago.

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Adja
First Class Passenger
Member # 6147

posted 05-13-2006 12:35 AM

This is an interesting post in another forum. I thought the author was quite interesting too . . .

Yahoo Groups - Passenger Ships

Hmmm . . . another interesting post. Same forum, same author.

Yahoo Groups - Passenger Ships (second posting)

[ 05-13-2006: Message edited by: Adja ]

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Linerdan
First Class Passenger
Member # 4719

posted 05-13-2006 01:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Adja:
This is an interesting post in another forum. I thought the author was quite interesting too . . .
Yahoo Groups - Passenger Ships

The same letter of information also got posted on the SS Norway yahoo group.

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gpcruisedude
First Class Passenger
Member # 3533

posted 05-13-2006 02:12 AM

hmm...interesting. I wasn't aware MTC their eyes and ears out on the ship forums! Boy we sure have some pretty knowledgeable people incuding Joe,Patrick and Tim out their who are directly involved in the cruise business! Same with Raoul and Im not sure if Rueben from ssmaritime is out their too! And who else do we have i wonder!

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Adja
First Class Passenger
Member # 6147

posted 05-14-2006 10:56 AM

According to this news site, the Supreme Court of India has directed that Blue Lady will not be allowed to enter the Indian sovereign jurisdiction till the Supreme Court’s appointed committee of technical experts gives its opinion.

'Blue Lady won't be allowed into India'

I read somewhere on another site that the committee opinion is expected on July 7th.

A reprieve perhaps??

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