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Thad
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posted 04-15-2006 07:05 PM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The QM2 arrived in Brooklyn today for the first time. This picture is from WNBC's site. Hopefullly there will be more images out there soon enough.


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Ernst
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posted 04-15-2006 07:56 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow - one can see Manhattan in the backgroud.
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Michael534
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posted 04-15-2006 08:22 PM      Profile for Michael534   Email Michael534   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is a link to a cam with both live stream and still images. The terminal is to the left. The stream is pretty good,too. It was great to see her sail live.
I was also able to catch the Noordam sail passed the Battery.
Now I hope I can put the address is. Never tried this before.

Enjoy,
MichaelNY Cam


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lasuvidaboy
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posted 04-15-2006 08:56 PM      Profile for lasuvidaboy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It sure won't be the same as departing from Manhattan.
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KenC
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posted 04-16-2006 05:53 AM      Profile for KenC   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi Thad

actually the photo is taken in Port Everglade I think??? Recognise that terminal anywhere.

Regards

Ken


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Linerrich
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posted 04-16-2006 08:04 AM      Profile for Linerrich   Email Linerrich   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by KenC:
Hi Thad

actually the photo is taken in Port Everglade I think??? Recognise that terminal anywhere.

Regards

Ken


Ken you're right--that's Pier 21 at Port Everglades, QM2's regular berth there. You can see the Hyatt Pier 66 Hotel in the background.

Rich


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Thad
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posted 04-16-2006 11:15 AM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You guys are definitely right, I thought it looked off, that's what you get for trusting the news... The one looks to definitely be in Brooklyn.

from www.nycruiseinfo.com


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Thad
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posted 04-16-2006 11:20 AM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One more from Cunard, with Bloomberg in front of the ship.


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Thad
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posted 04-16-2006 11:31 AM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A few more....
Fiirst from the NY Times

From the NY Daily News


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Thad
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posted 04-16-2006 11:33 AM      Profile for Thad   Email Thad   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And another....

Again from the Daily News


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-16-2006 01:21 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Can anyone post amap to show a confused Brit where this terminal is in relationship to Bayone and NYPT.
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annnthony
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posted 04-16-2006 01:56 PM      Profile for annnthony   Email annnthony   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Malcolm, I'm sure someone will post a map at some time. In fact, there was one in yesterdays edition of the Bergen Record, page A-4, a northern New Jersey daily.

However, visualize as follows: you're at the front of the ship just going under the Verrazanno Narrows Bridge, Staten Island is at your left and Brooklyn at your right, the Statue of Liberty is now visible straight ahead and a bit to the left, you'll pass her in about two miles heading up the Hudson River, and another four miles to the old NYC piers.

Instead, passing under the bridge, you'll soon veer right into the Buttermilk Channel, a narrow tidal strait between Brooklyn and the south side of Governor's Island. The north side of Governor's island is the entrance to the East River and the lowest point of Manhattan, the Battery section where the Staten Island ferries dock.

The Associated Press described the entrance to the strait as a "Herculean ballet manuever"!

Hope this helps.

Being from Northern New Jersey we're not happy about the move to Brooklyn. Our 40 minute limo ride will now be at leasy 90 minutes, however, we'll endure, we embark on April 29th!


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posted 04-16-2006 02:49 PM      Profile for empressport     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So now you don't get a good view of the Statue of Liberty, or go under the bridge!? Thanks Carnival

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annnthony
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posted 04-16-2006 02:59 PM      Profile for annnthony   Email annnthony   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hope my post wasn't confusing, you still, do, go under the bridge....."Instead, passing under the bridge, you'll soon veer right...."!
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posted 04-16-2006 03:11 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Entering New York harbor from the bottom of the picture having already passed under the Verazzano Narrows Bridge...

The Bayonne Piers (Cape Liberty; RCI/Celebrity) are the two large finger piers near lower left.

Just below the center of photo are Ellis Island and Liberty Island.

Right of center and down is the large Governors Island and to the right of it is Buttermilk Channel and southeast of it is Red Hook Point (new Brooklyn Cunard Piers).

The Manhattan cruiseship piers are up the Husdon River near the top of the picture.

This aerial picture was taken after the WTC attacks...

http://www.stinky.com/wtc/NYC-091101.jpg

Another good aerial of Governors Island and to it's right Buttermilk Channel. The new Cunard Piers are lower right side of channel.

http://www.penceland.com/pics/nyc_aerial.jpg

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Patsy
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posted 04-16-2006 04:45 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looking at the webcam yesterday it looks very dismal in Brooklyn - worse than here which is some achievement! I loved that skyline of Manhattan. Carnival moving out shows certain journalists at the Liverpool Echo should take what Cunard say about the links with the past with a pinch of salt (especially considering they say that to everyone with just the city changed). NY has so much heritage from the old liners and Carnival have ended it. Nowhere is safe. Does anyone know why they moved to Brooklyn?
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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-16-2006 05:00 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the ariel photo's dmwmc1.

Patsy, on the subject of maritime heritage: I'm still upset that Southampton lost it's wonderful 'ocean Terminal'.

You might also think that Southampton would have a major maritime museum, rather than minor one!


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posted 04-16-2006 05:04 PM      Profile for Patsy   Author's Homepage   Email Patsy   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Agreed on both counts there, Malcolm. But the council are a bunch of useless, er, pigs. We also need a skyline. I felt really left out until seeing Fremantle. Bland as us apart from their maritime museum on the corner with sun. I felt so much better after that. LOL!
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Linerdan
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posted 04-16-2006 05:24 PM      Profile for Linerdan   Email Linerdan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Let me get this right.

You get off one of the most luxurious ships afloat and walk down a gang plank into a tin shed


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Malcolm @ cruisepage
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posted 04-16-2006 05:33 PM      Profile for Malcolm @ cruisepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Linerdan:
You get off one of the most luxurious ships afloat and walk down a gang plank into a tin shed

The NYPT is no palace. Parts of that remind me of a disused wharehouse. In fact many of the worlds cruise terminals are dumps! At best thet are often sparce, but functional. At worst they are totally inadeqaute to handle mega-ships.


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posted 04-16-2006 05:55 PM      Profile for dmwnc1   Email dmwnc1   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Malcolm @ cruisepage:

The NYPT is no palace. Parts of that remind me of a disused wharehouse. In fact many of the cruise terminals are dumps! At best thet are often sparce, but functional. At worst they are totally inadeqaute to handle mega-ships.


Valid point, however, I personally would still rather travel 6 blocks from the NYPT to my pre- or post cruise hotel than 6 miles from/thru Brooklyn.

I am guessing though that docking in Brooklyn gives one easier access to La Guardia than having to cross mid-day Manhattan traffic if one is not spending extra time in NYC, which I figure most folks do. If you are in flying in/out of Newark Airport you're in for a loong drive.


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quote:
Originally posted by dmwnc1:
Valid point, however, I personally would still rather travel 6 blocks from the NYPT to my pre- or post cruise hotel than 6 miles from/thru Brooklyn.

I agree. I found it amazing on my first Trans that you could actually berth on the edge of the city. We are all use to Airports being on the edges of cities.

However, New Yorkers have been spoilt. Many of the worlds cruise terminals are miles from their respective cities. Even six miles is reasoanbly close. For example, Southampton, sometimes billed as "for London" is actually 80 miles from London.

By the way, I recall arriving at NYPT by QM2 in August 2005. I was given a taxi cab ticket number '94' and they were currently on number '6'. My Hotel may have been just six blocks away but the wait made the journey take almost 2 hours. If

Brooklyn is really more efficient I might just get to that Hotel quicker?


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posted 04-16-2006 06:47 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Brooklyn might be more practical - and it might make sense to have cruise ships berthed there. But on on other cruise the arrival in Manhattan is so important as in case of a transatlantic crossing QM2. Isn`t that what this ship has been built for?

BTW: What is QE2 going to do?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
Isn`t that what this ship has been built for?

I agree! Maybe NYPT will get their finger out now and make the improvements ASAP to win her back?


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quote:
Originally posted by Ernst:
BTW: What is QE2 going to do?

[ 04-16-2006: Message edited by: Ernst ]


Also use Brooklyn...

http://www.worldshipny.com/2006nycarrdep.html

Sept 19th

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