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bulbousbow
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posted 01-30-2006 08:21 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Famed ocean liner now a ghost ship in Malaysian waters
January 30, 2006

KUALA LUMPUR -- In her heyday she was the most glamorous ship on the seas, plying the transatlantic route and celebrated as the pride of France and one of the last of the classic ocean liners.

But the SS Norway -- launched in 1960 as the SS France -- now cuts a forlorn figure as she sits in open waters off Malaysia's coast with her name crudely painted over, quietly rusting and likely headed for the scrapyard.

The fate of the historic vessel, once the longest in the world, has been the subject of intense speculation among its many fans since May when it was towed from a German port where it was consigned after a 2003 boiler explosion.

Its owner, Norwegian Cruise Line, said in April last year it intended to "utilise the ship in a new venture" and that it would be taken to Malaysia's Port Klang just west of the capital Kuala Lumpur.

It did not release further details, except to say the Norway "did not fit into the company's well-advanced fleet modernisation programme".

Rumours have been circulating for months in shipping and marine circles that the Norway is to be sold to an Asian ship-breaking company.

Greenpeace has included the Norway on a watchlist of 50 vessels which it fears will not be decontaminated before being scrapped, saying the French workers who built the ship claim it contains 1,250 tons of asbestos-containing material.

"The workers don't want to expose the workers on Asian shipbreaking yard to the risks that they were exposed to when building the ship," it said on its website, adding that they were now developing asbestos-related illnesses.

Norwegian's Malaysian parent company, Star Cruises, has refused to elaborate on its plans or even confirm the Norway's presence in Malaysian waters.

But Malaysia's Marine Department confirmed to AFP that the Bahamas-flagged vessel was anchored in open waters in the Malacca Strait, one nautical mile from Malaysia's busy Port Klang, which lies west of the capital Kuala Lumpur.

"This ship is in Malaysian territorial waters," a marine department official told AFP, adding that department officers had examined the vessel.

Approaching by speedboat about a half-hour's journey from Port Klang, the Norway's graceful lines and distinctive winged funnels are clearly recognisable as she looms on the horizon.

A tour of the ship's exterior speaks of an uncertain road ahead for the stately vessel once feted as the apex of luxury cruising.

The giant liner's name, spelled out in raised metal letters, has been painted over in a slapdash manner but remains clearly visible.

Stenciled above is the new name "Blue Lady".

Windows which used to provide scenic vistas for well-heeled passengers have some of their shutters and blue curtains partially drawn, while interior furnishings are piled up against some panes.

A disused basketball hoop and a sign reading "The Great Outdoor Restaurant" on an open upper deck where passengers once sunned themselves recall better times.

Rust flakes through the paintwork along the deck's once-pristine bannisters and ceilings.

While no crew can be seen, smoke rises from one of the Norway's two funnels, which along with its original avant-garde interior and artwork were acclaimed as breaking ground in their day.

Jacky Tan Keng Joo, a local Port Klang boat operator, said he first noticed the Norway during his rounds in the area in late August.

He said he had been to the ship three times since -- twice to have a look with some friends and once in late October, when he ferried officials from the Genting group, which owns Star Cruises, to the Norway.

"It was three people. One Malaysian and two white foreigners," he said. "They didn't go on the boat. They took pictures."

Tan also said ferries regularly took supplies and drinking water to the Norway, although he had not spotted any of its crew.

When the France was launched by the wife of then-president Charles De Gaulle on May 11 1960, it was, at 313 metres (1,027 feet), the longest liner in the world at the time.

The Queen Mary 2 currently holds the record at 345 metres (1,132 feet) long.

The vessel was sold in 1979 to Norwegian Cruise Line and renamed. It was kept at the German port of Bremerhaven at a cost of around 500,000 dollars a month after the 2003 explosion in Miami, Florida which killed eight crew.

But the Norway's beauty and its service over decades has earned a legion of loyal followers, who are anxiously tracking its location, swapping theories over its fate and calling for its preservation.

AFP


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TDM99
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posted 01-30-2006 08:58 AM      Profile for TDM99   Email TDM99   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello ! You can see now 6 new pictures from the NORWAY in Port KLANG ! On : www.revedefrance.com ( you go on the main page of the image from Norway and after you go of the picture : Hervé et sa famille ) . They photos com from a French family who lives in the aera , he making the photos on a sunday tour whis hes wife and 3 childrens : POUR VOIR LE " GRAND " BATEAU ! ( for see the " big " ship ! ) . And i have found another site pictures , not from the Norway but from the FRANCE ! This site is : www.photojpbasile.com This man working on the photo shop on ss FRANCE 5 years ! They are beautiful pitcures on the site , he sell a CD with 100 photos . So we " continued " to work for saving this " BEAUTIFUL SHIP " !!!
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Ernst
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posted 01-30-2006 09:16 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Merci beaucoup TDM99! Le France est vraiment un bateau extraoirdinare - les photos sont fantastique!

Il n'en demeure pas moins que vous propser de souligner seulment les lien hypertext - il est et plus facile comme ça. (Le titre 'Les premières photos du "NORWAY"...' n'est pas un line hyertext - c'est déconcertant)

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bulbousbow
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posted 01-30-2006 09:38 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For those who want a direct link to the images proposed by TDM99 go to: "NORWAY" est toujours à Port Klang. Enjoy.

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P.S. Ernst, very good French I see!


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DAMBROSI
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posted 01-30-2006 10:04 AM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Quote from article:
quote:
Norwegian's Malaysian parent company, Star Cruises, has refused to elaborate on its plans or even confirm the Norway's presence in Malaysian waters.

Well, it just goes to prove, they want to keep her out of sight, out of mind.....good thing is, people are visiting her.
And Greenpeace has her on their list......she's going nowhere right now.
And I love those photos...good to finally see her.
Thank you for posting them and the article.

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TDM99
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posted 01-30-2006 10:13 AM      Profile for TDM99   Email TDM99   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lieber " ERNST " ! Wenn ich euch oder das forum hier beleidigt habe , mochte ich mich entschuldigen ! Wie sie gesehen haben , bin ich : JUST BOARDED !!! Vor einer woche , und leider ist mein English so schlecht , das ich meinen " kleinen beitrag " nicht ganz versauen " will ! Es ginge so einfach wen jeder " ESPERANTO " lernen wurde ! Mit den " deuschen " beitrage geht es besser ; et en " français " il n' y a aucun probleme !!! Ich bin gewohnt langere beitrage zu machen Ah oui , das schiff ist 315.66 meter lang ( sagen wir mal 315.5 meter wegen der ausdehnung ; wie der Eiffel Turm ! ) . Wie viel mal waren sie shon an bord der NORWAY ? Ach ja , waren sie in Southampton am 1-05-2004 ? So I' m SORRY for my " BAD ENGLISH " !!! From a " CRUISE SHIP LOVER " espcially from : ss FRANCE / ss NORWAY !!! Noel
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Ernst
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posted 01-30-2006 10:58 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
TDM99, personne n'est offensé - c'etait seulment un propsition - actuellment j'assemble mon 'webpage' - c'est pourquoi j'aperçois ces choses - je espére quìl seras si gentil que votre 'webpage'! (...à l'inverse de ça que bulbousbow a ecrit mon français n'est pas si bon - est 'webpage' le correct mot?)

Malheureusment je ne jamais etais pas a bord de France - non plus a Southampton au 01-05-2004.

Vive le France!

Ernst

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Maasdam
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posted 01-30-2006 11:03 AM      Profile for Maasdam   Author's Homepage   Email Maasdam   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There is a small movie of here whene she leaves Lloyd werft. She sail past the Pride of America wich greet here with here horn.

Sad movie here the link:
France 3 movie Norway.

Greetings Ben.


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Pascal
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posted 01-30-2006 12:10 PM      Profile for Pascal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wasn't aware that you spoke french, Ernst. This is becoming a multi-lingual forum.
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Ernst
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posted 01-30-2006 12:17 PM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...as you saw - my French is far from being perfect - I guess we should stay with English - it is much simpler (this way).

Nevertheless, speaking some French is a necessity - how else do you order your meal in a proper restaurant?

[ 01-30-2006: Message edited by: Ernst ]


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Kelly D Payne
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posted 01-30-2006 10:48 PM      Profile for Kelly D Payne   Email Kelly D Payne   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She's starting to get streaks of rust on her hull,she's still a beauty though.If i could i'd buy her in a hot second.

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bulbousbow
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posted 01-31-2006 06:49 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Ernst wrote:
...à l'inverse de ça que bulbousbow a ecrit mon français n'est pas si bon...

Your French is good enough to understand Ernst.

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Ernst
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posted 01-31-2006 06:57 AM      Profile for Ernst   Author's Homepage   Email Ernst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Originally posted by bulbousbow:

Your French is good enough to understand Ernst.

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Je peut expiquer en français que je ne parle pas français bien - c'est tous q'on a besoin si on es en france.


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posted 01-31-2006 10:07 PM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Ernst wrote:
Je peut expiquer en français que je ne parle pas français bien - c'est tous q'on a besoin si on es en france.

In otherwords just enough knowledge of the language to get you by when in France (and when speaking/writing to Francophones)...Bravo!

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