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Jepp
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posted 08-24-2005 06:39 AM      Profile for Jepp   Email Jepp   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hepp!
I just heard that MSC:s Monterey cruise 18 sep is cancelled. Does anybody knows why? Nothing at their homepage.

/Jepp


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bulbousbow
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posted 08-24-2005 08:10 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She is available for sale at Euro 12million in September. Maybe someone is interested in her.

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PamM
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posted 08-24-2005 08:26 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
She has been up for sale for a couple of years, if not longer. Every season we are told it is her last, but still she sails on She is still showing on UK websites for this cruise, but that doesn't mean a lot.

Maybe there is an interested buyer, maybe a charter, maybe ending early... a few options. How did you find out Jepp? Are you booked on it?

Pam


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bulbousbow
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posted 08-24-2005 08:58 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
PamM wrote:
She has been up for sale for a couple of years, if not longer.

Yes that's true. I remember last year (2004) her scheduled cruises ended at about the same time in September. Was this the same the year before?

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Jepp
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posted 08-24-2005 09:26 AM      Profile for Jepp   Email Jepp   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
How did you find out Jepp? Are you booked on it?

Pam


Yes...
/Jepp


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jeffrossatsea
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posted 08-24-2005 02:08 PM      Profile for jeffrossatsea   Email jeffrossatsea   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
she would be a great new addition to the absent world explorer cruises....let's hope they are keeping an eye on her so she can sail into vancouver once again.....jeff
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Italianliners
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posted 08-24-2005 04:24 PM      Profile for Italianliners   Email Italianliners   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello,

maybe is time to MSC sell this ship, she is a little bit "old" for her recent fleet. I think that SS Monterey is a good option for Louis. Maybe? Who knows?

Italianliners


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gpcruisedude
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posted 08-24-2005 08:29 PM      Profile for gpcruisedude   Email gpcruisedude   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Could the Monterey ever be returned to the U.S. Flag?? As I know whe was built in the USA!! I wonder if maybe someone is up to something?
The Monterey would be a splendid addition to West Coast Cruising once again, even if just seasonal! I believe the Monterey can survive past 2010 SOLAS as I believe she is compliant is she not??

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TBirdFrank
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posted 08-26-2005 07:05 AM      Profile for TBirdFrank     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have just been informed that the 18th September cruise is cancelled due to the ship being chartered.

The truth of that remains to be discovered

Does anyone know how I can make real life contact with Pullmantur in Madrid to try to get onto the Oceanic instead????


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PamM
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posted 08-26-2005 07:34 AM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You can get in contact with Pullmantur from their website here. Someone will understand English. However from this Spanish Agency it appears there is no availability on Oceanic until 3 October, and looking through the latest Pullmantur offers, there is nothing listed for Oceanic until 24 Oct.

I was not able to book Pullmantur from the UK, but used a Belgian TA, and others have used Dutch TAs.

It's a shame this cruise has been cancelled, didn't realise so many CT'ers would have been aboard. One does wonder if it really is a charter, as you say. Hope you manage to find something else. There's always Louis too if you're looking for 'older' ships, and G Latino, Ocean Countess etc all have availability for 19 Sept.

Pam

[ 08-26-2005: Message edited by: PamM ]


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TBirdFrank
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posted 08-26-2005 03:44 PM      Profile for TBirdFrank     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thank you for that - this afternoon I found "ask Mr Cruise" a Norwegian site where Anja corresponded with me all afternoon in sparkling English, but only to confirm that there is no availability on Oceanic that fits my time frame

I can reccomend them to anyone - as for MSC - No Comment - at best!


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JP
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posted 08-27-2005 10:05 AM      Profile for JP     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does anyone know of any Pullmantur cruise reviews? I can't find any anywhere.

Any idea what the Oceanic will be doing in 2006? The Pullmantur site only shows through the end of 2005.

Thanks.


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bulbousbow
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posted 08-28-2005 12:55 AM      Profile for bulbousbow   Author's Homepage   Email bulbousbow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
JP wrote:
Does anyone know of any Pullmantur cruise reviews? I can't find any anywhere.

If you understand Spanish go to:

Infocruceros

or

Cruceromania

both have forums.

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PamM
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posted 08-28-2005 12:04 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
JP all the reviews I know of are in those 2 Spanish forums Bulbousbow has linked to. These are obviously from a different perspective than reviews from Brits or North Americans. I have read through many of the forums using a translator, but it doesn't work too well, often spouting rubbish and giving one the wrong end of the stick.

Johan sailed Oceanic in July 2004, his review is in this thread, along with links to his photos in the galleries. Willem sailed her earlier this year and has many photos on his personal website indexed here. I sailed her a month ago, had a fabulous time, but have not yet done a review, nor got many of my photos sorted, though there are a couple of galleries in there somewhere.

Do you speak Spanish? It's not really a problem, as many of the staff [and most of the Officers], speak English well, but there will only be a handful of other English speaking pax aboard [25 on our trip], and one may be inclined to feel left out if you like constant chat with other pax. Not many Spanish speak English, but some certainly will. A few words of Spanish breaks ice. Some staff still hail from her Premier Days, so happy to chat. The Diario De A Bordo is printed in English, so no problems that way, and all announcements are in both Spanish & English.

As a ship, she is a delight, kept in good condition and well worth a trip aboard. The staff are very good in some areas [restaurants/cabin], not so good in others [bar staff], but that's because being all inclusive they have no incentive to serve as quickly as possible. She's clean and quite spacious, with lovely stern decks and covered prom... however all the loungers soon get pinched from here in the morning at sea, by pax taking them out on the stern decks. No forward deck area though big minus, and only clear fwd views from the Sunrise Terrace [buffet eating area].

I am sure I will spout forth more in due course, but not much time during school hols. I note Holiday Dream is also going all inclusive later this year, not sure about Blue Dream/Star though. The Spanish do prefer the R ship, but of course she's a higher standard and more expensive.

Cruceromania, where are you?

Pam

[ 08-28-2005: Message edited by: PamM ]


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posted 08-28-2005 12:07 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by TBirdFrank:
.... but only to confirm that there is no availability on Oceanic that fits my time frame

That's a very big shame Is there a cancellation wait list? or similar? but not much of a hope at this stage. What are you thinking of doing instead?

Pam


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TBirdFrank
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posted 09-07-2005 11:27 AM      Profile for TBirdFrank     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Due to being scheduled to become a cap roller on the 10th October we are not allowed to be away after the end of September!

I have however managed to get cabin 802 on the Marco Polo ex Dover a week on Sunday for £999 each. Train spotting from the jaccuzzi in amsterdam the next day!

She's not a bad old tub - 39 years old - lost all her Ruskie spartan character and has a lovely forward deck area from where I managed to even photograph the Waverley last summer in the bristol Channel. We once sailed the Mikhail Lermontov in 1976 so we remember fried brussles sprouts, thirty five minutes for dinner then the lights went out, ad a try on to see if the Brits would spot no vodka in the drinks etc etc.

I would certainly like to do an antractic on her one day in her now cruise role.

The only drawback is that we will only see Barca through a coach window on transfer to the sirport, but by then the wife will be getting concerned to be home

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Cap roller = Granddad


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Jepp
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posted 09-08-2005 06:33 PM      Profile for Jepp   Email Jepp   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oceanic:
quote:
Originally posted by PamM:
As a ship, she is a delight, kept in good condition and well worth a trip aboard. The staff are very good in some areas [restaurants/cabin], not so good in others [bar staff], but that's because being all inclusive they have no incentive to serve as quickly as possible. [ 08-28-2005: Message edited by: PamM ]

Hello!
I was rapidly reboked and was lucky to get new air tickets and time off work. I came home yesterday from the 27th August cruise with s/s Monterey. The staff was very good in some areas (bar/cabin), not so good in others (restaurant)...
Last year I traveled with s/s Oceanic and then all staff was excellent everywhere but it wasn´t "all inclusive".. The food was better on s/s Oceanic.
Next year a hope that s/s Ausonia is still alive... Does somebody have experience from her?

/Jepp


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Marlowe
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posted 10-14-2005 10:25 AM      Profile for Marlowe   Email Marlowe   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looks now like MONTEREY has been sold by MSC or at least so says Marine Transportation Consulants

Does anyone know to whom?


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TBirdFrank
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posted 10-17-2005 04:08 PM      Profile for TBirdFrank     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I fear it will be a one way to Alang for any ship with boilers that comes up for sale.

Use them before we lose them!


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PamM
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posted 10-17-2005 06:55 PM      Profile for PamM   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I sincerely hope you are wrong..... but I have my doubts and you are probably right

Pam


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Joe1690
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posted 10-19-2005 08:34 PM      Profile for Joe1690     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
MSC’s Monterey according to Seatrade Insider has been chartered to an energy company for an undisclosed period. After that the ship will not return to the MSC fleet. It does not mention where she is going though.
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gpcruisedude
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posted 10-20-2005 08:18 PM      Profile for gpcruisedude   Email gpcruisedude   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's possible that she could have been sold to someone else, but who?? She is still an excellent ship and it is possible that because she will be in the USA that maybe she will become a hotel ship or something else! She has been chartered to an energy company so I would assume she will be housing workers for re-building facilities and it could be possible that she will be their for about a year at least is my guess, maybe longer, sho knows!

I think she would make a splendid addition to World Exlorer Cruises and she would make a big splash in the Alaskan market too! She could also do okay on short cruises catering to the North American Market!


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posted 10-21-2005 12:01 AM      Profile for DAMBROSI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wish we had cruise lines like Louis and Pullmantur here. I miss our Premier and Regency cruise lines here like crazy....it's not fair to not have cruise lines like that here. I'd love to see the cruise lines here build smaller ships.
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NAL
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posted 10-21-2005 08:01 AM      Profile for NAL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
TBirdFrank,
Thanks for the explanation of "Cap roller" as
that was a new one for me and for some
others. Can you tell us the derivation of the
expression? Thanks in advance.

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Jepp
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posted 11-01-2005 03:10 PM      Profile for Jepp   Email Jepp   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maririmematters news says:

"MONTEREY To The Gulf Coast?
October 22: In the wake of Hurricane Rita, the city of Lake Charles, Louisiana has been working with State Governor Kathleen Blanco, to bring a cruise ship up river to the Lake area to house hundreds left homeless after the storm damage. Could this be why MSC's 1952-built MONTEREY (ex PINE TREE MARINER) is now reported to be headed to the US Gulf Coast from Italy? Originally a cargo ship, she and her sister were bought by Matson Line in 1955, and rebuilt as passenger ships for South Pacific service. Pacific Far East Lines bought the ships in 1970 and in 1989, MONTEREY was purchased by StarLauro Crociere, and later passed to MSC in 1995. It was reported that the elderly ship would no longer sail under the MSC banner after the charter ends, speculation has her possibly chartered for cruising from Durban, South Africa in April or May 2006."

but a friend of mine who cruised with "Oceanic" last week saw her in Neaples 31 Oct.
/Jepp


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